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Does Your Vehicle Have An ' Event Data Recorder' On Board?
KOTV News (Tulsa) ^ | Feb. 4, 2005 | Lori Fullbright

Posted on 02/04/2005 7:31:09 PM PST by Rennes Templar

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To: garyhope

Think this way,,,A black box records , that all it does..It does not make the vehicle run...After that is something else..............Southron And Proud Of It...............


61 posted on 02/04/2005 8:05:53 PM PST by southronbtgoG (If I knew everything , I'd be ,,,well I don't come close)
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To: mo
Any legal eagles here can explain why it is not a 5th ammendment violation to prosecute somebody using this data ?

The safest thing to do would be to impound the car and find a friendly judge to give you a search warrant.

I personally feel that a warrant should be necessary, but I am unwilling to predict how the courts would come out on the issue. I'm not aware of any decisions on point.

62 posted on 02/04/2005 8:06:04 PM PST by PAR35
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To: K4Harty

It isn't your car until after that last payment.


63 posted on 02/04/2005 8:06:52 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: southronbtgoG

My Bad...New to this...no excuse,,just a reason.


64 posted on 02/04/2005 8:07:21 PM PST by southronbtgoG (If I knew everything , I'd be ,,,well I don't come close)
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To: Rennes Templar

65 posted on 02/04/2005 8:07:35 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Please leave a message after the burp....)
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To: RetroWarrior
Your welcome.
???

I don't understand.

Can you explain or elaborate - why is it, literally: "my welcome" in this case?

I see people using this same terminology: "Your welcome" all the time and it just doesn't make sense ...

"You're welcome" (literally, the contraction "you are" and "welcome") I could see, and as well, understand, but "your welcome" does not compute ...

66 posted on 02/04/2005 8:09:03 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim
You said thank you, I said your welcome. It's called politeness. What doesn't compute?
67 posted on 02/04/2005 8:10:49 PM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: Rennes Templar
I have mixed feelings about this, but the data could be used for or against the driver.

This reminds me of the prediction Bill Gates made years ago. I think he foresaw a future where we would live a "documented life".

This might be inevitable given the shrinking size and growing storage and processing power of computers. Just look at how cell phones with cameras are being banned from some locations.

In the near future, surveillance may take place using microscopic "dust" made of nano-computers. I guess we are entering the brave new world now.
68 posted on 02/04/2005 8:12:41 PM PST by unlearner
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To: Abcdefg

Still gotta pay tax/tag..or they'll come get it


69 posted on 02/04/2005 8:12:57 PM PST by southronbtgoG (If I knew everything , I'd be ,,,well I don't come close)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Excuse_My_Bellicosity

From your profile it appears you are almost 30 years old.

I hope you live to be "OLD".

I do, I DO !!!

70 posted on 02/04/2005 8:15:16 PM PST by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: southronbtgoG
Only if you drive it on their streets. Otherwise you don't need to have it registered or inspected.
71 posted on 02/04/2005 8:17:19 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: RetroWarrior
I said your welcome
Is - is it, could it be that - it's just bad english on your part that is confusing me - and - and you are not aware of it?

Okay, let me wre-write that last sentance so I can get a better picture of what's going on:

Is - is it, could it be that - it's just bad english on your part that is confusing me - and your not aware of it?

I think I'm catching on, I think I've figured it out, but since I didn't attend strictly 'publik skools' during my early years I have trouble, sometimes, with this "neu ing-lish" of today ...

72 posted on 02/04/2005 8:17:46 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim
You should change your FR handle to Mr. Smartypants.
73 posted on 02/04/2005 8:18:22 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: DTogo

Just recognize that privacy is a concept from the past. Everbody has much to be kept close to the vest, but the future is openness of all to the gov't. The trick will be to have a similar openness of gov't to the public.


74 posted on 02/04/2005 8:18:47 PM PST by Paladin2 (SeeBS News - We Decide, We Create, We Report - In that order! - ABC - Already Been Caught)
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To: _Jim; RetroWarrior

LOL. I corrected a Freeper on a similar error, as I have been corrected on one before, and he jumped all over me!
Now I recall, it was an article about IQ, and he spelled bright, "brite". I think it's not a mortal sin when quickly typing to produce an error or two. I also think it's OK to point them out now and then, for us "sticklers".


75 posted on 02/04/2005 8:19:27 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: USNBandit

>>> Anybody know if flight data recorders can be used for criminal and civil proceedings? I thought they were used only for the safety investigation, but I could be wrong.

I understand that the pilots union fought the introduction of FDRs until certain legal issues were settled. There is also a presumption of privacy, such as we saw on the edited 9/11 cockpit tapes and the edited Challenger tapes.

FDRs record the last 30 minutes of conversation. Would you want the last 30 minutes of conversation in your car replayed in a courtroom, in a criminal proceeding?

How about a divorce proceeding, or in probate court?

Forget criminal proceedings. How about civil suits against your estate? How about provided to insurance companies, who get to review the information for ANY reason to deny a claim?

Forget privacy laws providing help in this area. Just ask Kobe Bryant or his accuser.


76 posted on 02/04/2005 8:19:57 PM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: hole_n_one
    You should change your FR handle to

I just feel like being obtuse tonight, or, as one poster's moniker puts it: "Excuse_My_Bellicosity".

<grin>

78 posted on 02/04/2005 8:21:00 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Jagman
Buy a pre-1990's vehicle if you tend to drive drunk.

...or do us all a favor and TAKE THE BUS.
79 posted on 02/04/2005 8:21:18 PM PST by JayNorth
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To: _Jim
Perhaps you need to update your linguistic database. Your "Thank You" is a contraction. You should have said something to the effect of "I Thank you for your..." Give it up, buddy. Does that compute?
80 posted on 02/04/2005 8:21:52 PM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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