[Sola Veritas]

"These days we could take a lesson from Lincoln on how to treat the judiciary."

Well, I can agree with that statement. I understand that when Lincoln suspended habeus corpus that Chief Justice Taney ruled him unconstitutional. It is said that Lincoln considered having Taney arrested, but didn't follow through. He simply ignored Taney. I believe Lincoln said that, "more rogues than honest men find shelter behind habeus corpus."

It is ironic that to "save the union", Lincoln had to deliberately violate the Constitution. I think that Lincoln was a consumate pragmatic politician that did whatever was expedient at the time. Is this greatness? Personally, I don't know. Does it make him bad? I don't know about that either.

[DoughtyOne]

I've more or less played devil's advocate on this thread. I don't know about the questions you raise either. These are serious matters.

I don't have a drive to dishonor Lincoln, but I do think there are grave issues raised with some of his actions. I am not convinced his legacy is as bright as is comonly related. Neither am I convinced he was a deeply flawed President. There is fertile ground for discussion on these matter.

Thanks to you and others for participating on this thread.

[Non-Sequitur]

I understand that when Lincoln suspended habeus corpus that Chief Justice Taney ruled him unconstitutional.

Chief Justice Taney on his own could not rule anything unconstitutional. It would take a majority of the Supreme Court to do that.

It is ironic that to "save the union", Lincoln had to deliberately violate the Constitution.

In all fairness to Lincoln that has never been determined.