Breast Cancer Mystery Frustrates Scientists: Electric Light Just Latest Of Many Suspects

Hartford Courant ^ | February 6, 2005 | William Hathaway

[spetznaz]

As i explained in my post it is not the high stress levels that are important but the continuous stress levels. In days of yore stress was existent. It is still there in the 3rd world. But it is here in the developed world that a person wakes up stressed, goes through the day stressed, and goes to bed stressed.

Most people are under constant stress. And it is the perpetuality of it, not necessarily the magnitude, that is dangerous. It has actually been shown that constant stress is an almost certain harbinger of disease.

[nothingnew]

It is sad. Until the un and others send pubic edumakayshun over to these poor countries and lift the ban on DDT to stop malaria, and stop their heavy foot from clamping down on the throats of people they declare to be helping while keeping them in the dark ages..../sarcasm

FMCDH(BITS)

[redhead]

It would take me a while to find the source, butin the article, it was reported that they were able to determine that Monkey Virus-contaminated supplies were given in Utah and 10 other states in 1955. The article had to do with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I will search and see if I can find it for you.

[nothingnew]

And it is the perpetuality of it, not necessarily the magnitude, that is dangerous. It has actually been shown that constant stress is an almost certain harbinger of disease.

That's why a firm belief in Him, and His promise of an afterlife with Him, which I hold, relieves 99% of that stress. When all you do is struggle on this earth, with no hope of anything after, bare existence here offers little more than stress and despair.

JMHO

FMCDH(BITS)

[Capriole]

Diarrhea is one of the most common causes of child and infant mortality in the underdeveloped world. The kids can't retain any fluid, get dehydrated, and die. The sad thing is, they can be saved very easily, with some of the cheapest medications that exist; saving a baby's life can cost only a few pennies. The difficulty lies in delivering these drugs to extremely remote areas not served by hospitals, clinics, or health-care workers.

[mad_as_he$$]

Man this is the first I've heard of this one. Interesting info. Thanks

[muir_redwoods]

"Over 500 years ago, what passed for scientists back then, used to call breast cancer the nuns disease, because only nuns got it. There is a definite link between breast cancer and not nursing children. Abortion comes into play because you can't nurse an aborted child."

Maybe and it's only anecdotal but my wife, who died last march from breast cancer, nursed all three of our daughters. She never had an abortion either, BTW

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

In the developing world they may have their own stress levels, but they are never always at full blast.

Right. Never being quite sure where your next meal is coming from is very soothing.

[WVNan]

Well, nobody has guessed it yet, so I'll just throw this out there. Mammagrams. No way will they ever get me near one of those things.

[Askel5]

=== Richard Stevens wants to shed some light on the murky origins of breast cancer. The University of Connecticut cancer epidemiologist says there still is no scientific consensus about why the incidence of the disease is so much higher in the dev


Hey ... how about the birth control which jacks with her hormones incessantly?

You think we'll ever see this tack investigated? Strangely enough, there's plenty of scientific evidence supporting the connection already. Odd that it gets no play in the media (or funding from the goverment).

[ErnBatavia]

Not many people died of cancer a two hundred years ago--plague, pneumonia, infections, etc., got them first---

I don't imagine anyone 200 years ago had the slightest idea that "cancer" even existed...maybe that's why so many people died from 'consumption'.

[nothingnew]

Diarrhea is one of the most common causes of child and infant mortality in the underdeveloped world.

I do not doubt this.

See #42

What do you or others propose? These are 3rd world unedumakated natives that have been under the auspices of the un for decades. What the hell is anyone supposed to do about it? What? Send more money to their freakin'* (*word replaced) leaders to build more palaces and caviar for there "state" dinners? What in the hell do you propose? Do you want me to go over there and live with them and tell them not to crap in their own water? Tell them to stop believing in "the goddess of the holy mountain of goat's heads"?

What do you propose?

FMCDH(BITS)

[small voice in the wilderness]

BRAVO. Standing ovation to you, nothingnew! You give $$$ to the situation and the leaders get rich. You send food and medicine and the leaders get richer. How many years has this vicious circle been turning and they are no better off today than the first day we decided we could save them. Until they want to change their leaders and have the passion and wherewithall to see it through, nothing will change. Maybe this is what W. was talking about in his SOTU speech. We'll be there to help when democracy is the cry of the people. Regards, SVITW

[TASMANIANRED]

"We knew more about the cause of breast cancer 20 years ago than we do today," Stevens said. "What we do know is that it must have something to do with industrialized society."

This is total b/s. What did they do get stupid. Did they loose the research. Did they all just get amnesia. Mean while they refuse to research the legitimate link between breast cancer and abortion.

[TASMANIANRED]

You got it buster.

At the turn of the 19th century average life expectancy was 49.

The number one cause of death in young adult women was child birth.

[nothingnew]

Thanks. I need no BRAVO, it's just common sense. The UN has to be abolished before any progress can be made for these 3rd world people. The UN is the biggest roadblock to any advancement therein. Some people here have grandiose positions about "helping" these poor unfortunates, but like you said "Until they want to change their leaders and have the passion and wherewithall to see it through, nothing will change." You are quite correct in that, tho the wherewithall will not come until the UN is finished, for good.

FMCDH(BITS)

[TASMANIANRED]

It may not be the nursing as much as the hormone break that people have with repeated pregnancies.

With the menstrual cycle you have rising and falling estrogen/progesterone levels monthly.

With pregnancy early you have a rise in progesterone that helps sustain the pregnancy in the early months (morning sickness months) and then a fairly steady state hormone lvl until delivery. If you breast feed you may not have menstrual cycles for many months.

With 5 pregnancies you have 4.8 years without the monthly fluctuations in estrogen/progesterone lvls.

[spetznaz]

see my post 41.

[Capriole]

What do you or others propose? These are 3rd world unedumakated natives that have been under the auspices of the un for decades.

Actually, I'm working with an organization that's got a good way of approaching things. It's a charitable organization that's trying to work around the UN, in a discreet way. They've assembled extremely low-cost medications, some preventative meds and some treatment drugs, to deal with the most common causes of childhood disease, plus some cheap first-aid supplies. They offer simple training to people in the village about how to treat ordinary illnesses and when to try to transport a very sick child to civilization for treatment. The important thing is that (a) they're avoiding the UN and the usual mercenary delivery systems, and (b) they're making sure that the drugs aren't the kind that are desirable for the use of soldiers, so they won't be as likely to be stolen by the corrupt military. It's a great system.

[maine-iac7]

There's a much more believable hypothesis put forth in the book: "Dressed to Kill." by a husband and wife research team, Sydney Ross Singer and Soma Grismaijer.

Their premise is "Their interpretation is that tight clothing inhibits the proper functioning of the lymphatic system (an internal network of vessels and nodes that flushes wastes from the body) and leads to a buildup of carcinogenic compounds in the constricted areas."

They got deep into this research after she was diagnosed with breast cancer. I have read it and it makes a lot of sense - if the lymphatic system is restricted from doing it's job, it can cause illness.

Also, the "electric light" theorists pose that since more women in developed countries get breast cancer than people in primitive areas might be the link - well, women in the primitive area don't constrict their bodies with bras...

Sydney Ross Singer received a B.S. in biology from the University of Utah in 1979. He then spent two years in the biochemistry Ph.D. program at Duke University, followed by another two years at Duke in the anthropology Ph.D. program, receiving a Master’s Degree. He then attended the University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB) at Galveston, Texas on a full academic scholarship, where he spent one year in the medical humanities Ph.D. program, and received an additional two years training in medical school. Soma Grismaijer received an associate’s degree from the College of Marin in the behavioral sciences, and a bachelor of arts from Sonoma State University in environmental studies and planning.)