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AP: (President) Bush proposes cuts to scores of programs
San Diego Union -Tribune ^ | 2/6/05 | Martin Crutsinger - AP

Posted on 02/06/2005 1:02:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush's $2.5 trillion budget is shaping up as his most austere, trying to restrain spending across a wide swath of government from popular farm subsidies to poor people's health programs.

Vice President Dick Cheney on Sunday defended the plan against Democratic criticism that Bush had to seek steep cuts in scores of federal programs because he is unwilling to roll back first-term tax cuts that opponents contend primarily benefited the wealthy.

The budget's submission to Congress on Monday will set off months of intense debate. Lawmakers from both parties can be expected to vigorously fight to protect their favorite programs.

"This is the tightest budget that has been submitted since we got here," Cheney told "Fox News Sunday."

"It is a fair, reasonable, responsible, serious piece of effort. It's not something we have done with a meat ax, nor are we suddenly turning our backs on the most needy people in our society."

The president, who campaigned for re-election on a pledge to cut the deficit in half by 2009, is targeting 150 government programs for either outright elimination or sharp cutbacks.

Bush will propose spending $2.5 trillion in the budget year that begins Oct. 1. For the current year, he is estimating the budget deficit will reach a record $427 billion. That compares with last year's $412 billion deficit and is the third straight year the Bush administration will have set, in dollar terms, a deficit high.

The five-year projections in the budget will show the deficit declining to about $230 billion in 2009, when a new president takes office.

Those projections do not take into account some big-ticket items: the military costs incurred in Iraq and Afghanistan, the price of making Bush's first term tax cuts permanent, or the transition costs for his No. 1 domestic priority, overhauling Social Security.

Sen. Kent Conrad, the top Democrat on the Senate Budget Committee, said Bush's budget "talks about the next five years of reducing deficits, but what that hides is what happens after that five-year window. The cost of everything he advocates explodes."

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., praised the administration's willingness to tackle the deficit. "I'm glad the president is coming over with a very austere budget. I hope we in Congress will have the courage to support it," he told ABC's "This Week."

Joshua Bolten, Bush's budget director, told The Associated Press that when the budget is released, the administration will provide some estimates of the cost in increased government borrowing for the president's proposal to allow younger workers to set up private savings accounts.

But he said the administration cannot provide total cost figures for the Social Security overhaul because all the elements of the plan have yet to be decided upon.

Cheney would not confirm estimates the overhaul could cost $4.5 billion in additional government borrowing over 20 years.

Bush's budget will restrain the growth in discretionary programs to less than 2.3 percent. But because defense and homeland security are set for increases above that amount, the rest of government programs will see outright cuts or tiny gains far below the rate of inflation.

One of the biggest battles is certain to occur in the area of payments and other assistance to farmers, which the administration wants to trim by $587 million in 2006 and by $5.7 billion over the next decade.

Those payments go to farmers growing a wide range of crops from cotton, rice and corn to soybeans and wheat.

The United States and other rich countries have come under criticism for these agriculture subsidies from poor countries. In the current round of global trade talks, these nations are pressing for the subsidies' elimination.

Other programs set for cuts, the AP has learned, include the Army Corps of Engineers, whose dam and other waterway projects are extremely popular in Congress; the Energy Department; and a number of health programs under the Health and Human Services Department.

The administration also will seek to restrain growth in mandatory spending, primarily by trimming costs in Medicaid, the joint program with states that pays the cost of poor people's health care.

Spending on the military, the biggest part of discretionary spending, is on target to rise by 4.8 percent in 2006 to $419.3 billion, according to documents obtained by the AP. This figure does not include the $80 billion the administration has said it soon will seek to pay for the costs of continued military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Even the increase for the military will be below what the Pentagon had hoped to receive with several major weapons programs, including Bush's missile defense system and the B-2 stealth bomber, scheduled for cuts from current levels.

Many budget experts believe Bush's plan will not come close to achieving his goal of cutting the deficit in half because Congress will refuse to go along with the cuts, and Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress do not support tax increases.

"There is really no way out of the bind we are in now without some kind of increase in taxes," said Robert Reischauer, the president of the Urban Institute and a former head of the Congressional Budget Office.


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KEYWORDS: bush; cuts; federalspending; programs; proposes; scores
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1 posted on 02/06/2005 1:02:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

A 2% is a 'steep cut'


2 posted on 02/06/2005 1:03:42 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: NormsRevenge

A 2% INCREASE is a 'steep cut'


3 posted on 02/06/2005 1:03:53 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is it an actual cut or a reduction in the rate of growth?


4 posted on 02/06/2005 1:05:42 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: NormsRevenge
Can't you just hear the dems now? Starving women and children, yet they will bleat about the horrible deficit and blame his tax cut "for the one percent" for it. I just hope he stands up to them.
5 posted on 02/06/2005 1:06:13 PM PST by mlc9852
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Well he'd better do more than cut the rate of growth if he wants to stand up to the dems. This spending is ridiculous and we're bankrupting ourselves with our socialist spending and tax cuts. Something has to give, either he reduces spending or dems will eventually get their chance to raise taxes.
6 posted on 02/06/2005 1:09:18 PM PST by bahblahbah
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Yep, but you know how it works with the pork - and it is understandable to a point. No elected official wants his/her state to suffer with the cuts. Maybe an across-the-board percentage reduction would be possible. Going to be a tough fight, though.


7 posted on 02/06/2005 1:11:50 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: NormsRevenge


You know what

IT'S ABOUT TIME somebody did something, This man is looking to actually change things.


8 posted on 02/06/2005 1:13:17 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: NormsRevenge

He could really make a cut by eliminating the payments to the U.N.


9 posted on 02/06/2005 1:14:26 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: NormsRevenge

Translation: You have to do something about this ballooning budget, and whatever you do we will bitch about it, including doing nothing.


10 posted on 02/06/2005 1:22:19 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., praised the administration's willingness to tackle the deficit. "I'm glad the president is coming over with a very austere budget. I hope we in Congress will have the courage to support it," he told ABC's "This Week."

Holy cow, a moment of unqualitifed support from McCain????? Turn up the thermostat in Hell!

11 posted on 02/06/2005 1:24:42 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge

About time...I knew this was coming eventually .

Gotta love Dubya!


12 posted on 02/06/2005 1:25:44 PM PST by eleni121 (Four more years and four more again after that...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nobody is going to take Bush seriously until he veto's something. Every year Bush likes to talk tough about controlling the budget, but he just rubber-stamps every lard soaked bill that comes his way.


13 posted on 02/06/2005 1:31:43 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: NormsRevenge

"There is really no way out of the bind we are in now without some kind of increase in taxes," said Robert Reischauer, the president of the Urban Institute and a former head of the Congressional Budget Office."


Folks like this fella have an almost pathological desire to raise taxes...


14 posted on 02/06/2005 2:16:55 PM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: NormsRevenge
Those payments go to farmers growing a wide range of crops from cotton, rice and corn to soybeans and wheat.

"A wide range" is a little misleading. Virtually all the payments go to the five crops listed: corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton and rice. Some 240 other agricultural commodities are grown perfectly well in a free market. There's no reason the subsidy hogs can't do likewise, but selling affected farmers on the idea requires a paradigm shift.

15 posted on 02/06/2005 2:19:12 PM PST by sphinx
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To: GeronL
A 2% INCREASE is a 'steep cut'

Well you have to put it in perspective. Foreign aid is going up over 10% and I think that aid to the Palestinians is up 700%.

16 posted on 02/06/2005 2:20:45 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: NormsRevenge

And .. the group screaming the loudest will be the same group who were screaming already because Bush was SPENDING TOO MUCH - LOOK AT THE DEFICIT - SPENDING LIKE A DRUNKEN SAILOR.

Hmmmmm? What changed their minds now that the President has decided to keep INCREASES below the cost of living increases ..?? Their pet projects are being targeted and they don't like it.


17 posted on 02/06/2005 2:43:36 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The five-year projections in the budget will show the deficit declining to about $230 billion in 2009, when a new president takes office.

If that's true, then the federal deficit would only encompass about 1.8% of GDP. 

Right now we're at about 4% of GDP, and realistically a deficit that is only 1.8% of GDP is sustainable and not really that threatening to economic growth.

18 posted on 02/06/2005 5:35:46 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Geeze, you'd think the AP would do a bit more than go with the usual "he said she said" rubbish. Maybe say "Bush seeks to drastically slash domestic programs to support war and deficit-expanding tax cuts", etc. Where's the "Contract on America" huffing and puffing? These MSM goofballs have lost their mojo.
19 posted on 02/06/2005 6:44:19 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: NormsRevenge

As well as that, hope he cuts these things you always hear about "$100,000 to study if water is wet" and all these other ridiculous studies.


20 posted on 02/06/2005 6:59:13 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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