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SEC'Y RUMSFELD: "That is not how I answered that question.."
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Posted on 02/07/2005 5:29:07 AM PST by sure_fine

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.

And if you think about it, you can have all the armor in the world on a tank and a tank can be blown up. And you can have an up-armored Humvee and it can be blown up.

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MR. RUSSERT: Now, Specialist Wilson did acknowledge he worked with a journalist in crafting that question.

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: Yeah, but wait a minute. Let me get into this a little bit.

MR. RUSSERT: Sure.

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: That was unfair and it was selectively taking out two sentences from a long exchange--there it is--that took place. And when you suggested that that's how I answered that question, that is factually wrong.

MR. RUSSERT: No, we...

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: That is not how I answered that question.

MR. RUSSERT: But, Mr. Secretary, it clearly represents the exchange and...

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: It does not.

MR. RUSSERT: All right. What is missing?

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: You want to hear the exchange? There is it. It's right here. I'll read it to you.

MR. RUSSERT: I just...

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: If you're going to quote pieces of it, I'll give you the exchange. He asked that question, and I said, "I talked to the general coming out here about the pace at which the vehicles are being armored. They have been brought from all over the world, wherever they're not needed, to places where they are needed. I'm told they are being--the Army is--I think it's something like 400 a month are being done now. And it's essentially a matter of physics. It's not a matter of money. It isn't a matter on the part of the Army's desire. It's a matter of production and capability of doing it. As you know, you go to the war with the Army you have. They're not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.

"Since the Iraq conflict began, the Army has been pressing ahead to produce armor necessary at a rate that they believe--it's a greatly expanded rate from what existed previously but a rate that they believe is the rate that can be accomplished. I can assure you that General Schumacher and the leadership of the Army and certainly General Whitcomb are sensitive to the fact that not every vehicle has the degree of armor that would be desirable to have, but that they're working at it at a good clip.

"It's interesting. I've talked a great deal about this with a team of people who've been working hard at the Pentagon. And if you think about it, you can have all the armor in the world on a tank and the tank could still be blown up. And you can have an up-armored Humvee and it can be blown up. And you can go down and the vehicle--the goal we have is to have many of those vehicles as is humanly possible with the appropriate level of armor available for the troops. And that's what the Army's been working on. And, General Whitcomb, is there anything you want to add?" And then he spoke.

Now, that answer is totally different from picking out two lines. And I think it's an unfair representation and it's exactly what some of the newspapers around the country did. Now, let's go back to Susan Collins' comment, Senator Collins...

1 posted on 02/07/2005 5:29:07 AM PST by sure_fine
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To: sure_fine

Good for Rumsfeld...nailed the dishonest, lying MSM for what they are.


2 posted on 02/07/2005 5:30:27 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: sure_fine

I am plastering this exchange everywhere I can find a place to do it....because I know it will not see light if left up to MSM's


3 posted on 02/07/2005 5:31:01 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

Excellent post...thanks!


4 posted on 02/07/2005 5:31:43 AM PST by harpu
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To: sure_fine

also in all that transcript, you can see where Sen Kennedy told Tim to basically change the subject for his agenda


5 posted on 02/07/2005 5:32:19 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine
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I'm glad to finally have the context for the 'with the Army you have' remark. Thanks!

6 posted on 02/07/2005 5:34:10 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.)
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To: sure_fine
just wanted to add this tid bit from Kennedy

MR. RUSSERT: You also said "The war in Iraq has made the mushroom cloud more likely, not less likely, and it should never have happened." How has the war in Iraq made nuclear war more likely?

(and the Bloody Mary breakfast kicks in)

SEN. KENNEDY: Well, the--my own sense is--I'm not sure what the whole kind of context--I thought you were quoting the administration officials that use that as part of a justification and to go to war...

MR. RUSSERT: No, this is your speech at George Washington University. "The war in Iraq has made the mushroom cloud more likely, not less likely."

....lol

7 posted on 02/07/2005 5:42:27 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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Rummy SPANKED Russert with that quote! Russert looked so sheepish afterwards. It was a joy to watch Rummy put Timmy in his place.


8 posted on 02/07/2005 5:44:24 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Yes, I was JohnFKerrySucks, but it's time to move on. Pillory Hillary!)
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To: sure_fine

"could I have looked anymore stupid?"

9 posted on 02/07/2005 5:46:04 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: PilloryHillary
Rummy SPANKED Russert with that quote! Russert looked so sheepish afterwards. It was a joy to watch Rummy put Timmy in his place.

damn straight he did

10 posted on 02/07/2005 5:47:12 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

He nailed ... Maureen ... Russert.


11 posted on 02/07/2005 5:57:26 AM PST by SmithL (ex-Boomer Rider)
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To: sure_fine
Not wanting to give MSNBC-bs (home of the pathetic Chrissy Matthews) the click, when did this exchange between Russert and Rumsfeld take place? Was it just this weekend? Was it on MSNBC-bs or on MTP on the regular network, NBCbs?

Oh, I wish I could place my hands on that jpg with the zot coming off Rummy's finger tips! Hopefully a more resourceful FReeper will add it to this thread.

12 posted on 02/07/2005 6:03:40 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: sure_fine
Thanks for the photo...I'm printing it out, and then sending it to the 'fat pig's' office and asking him to autograph it to me and then send it back.

Geee...I wonder if he will?!?

13 posted on 02/07/2005 6:06:04 AM PST by harpu
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To: NonValueAdded

It was yesterday on Meet The Press. It was replayed last night at 10 p.m. EST. Not sure if it will be on again.


14 posted on 02/07/2005 6:06:50 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Yes, I was JohnFKerrySucks, but it's time to move on. Pillory Hillary!)
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To: sure_fine

TeddyK needs a man-bra...MUD


15 posted on 02/07/2005 6:09:56 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!)
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"Thanks for the photo...I'm printing it out, and then sending it to the 'fat pig's' office and asking him to autograph it to me and then send it back."

Tell them if he won't autograph it, could he please just put his whaleprint on it.


16 posted on 02/07/2005 6:11:44 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (You have seen that life is fragile, and evil is real, and courage triumphs -- George W Bush)
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To: Mudboy Slim

"TeddyK needs a man-bra...MUD"

I think this is commonly refered to as a "bro." At least that is what they called it on Seinfeld.


17 posted on 02/07/2005 6:29:11 AM PST by squidward
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To: sure_fine
What was NOT mentioned is the FACT that whoever designed the Bradley Armored Vehicle made a huge error in design.

Has anyone noticed this yet? In reading about Sgt. 1st Class Paul R. Smith (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335281/posts), I noted that in order to re-arm the Bradley, it had to back out of range of the snipers because the gun turret has to be tilted and the men have to exit the protection of the vehicle to insert more ammo.

Now to my untrained, nonmilitary mind, this is not good for the soldiers who are counting on the assistance of a Bradley in order to survive a battle.

SO, someone help me here and explain why this flaw of design has not been corrected?

THAT could have been a good question for Secretary Rumsfeld to answer. The MSM and Russert just want to trip up the Republicans so badly that they don't ask pertinent questions AND they don't or can't get their facts straight.
18 posted on 02/07/2005 6:29:46 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (It's not a sin to change religions. It IS a sin to kill someone for doing so, though.)
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To: sure_fine

http://www.neoperspectives.com/rumsfeld.htm


19 posted on 02/07/2005 6:34:13 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/blackconservatism.htm)
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To: sure_fine

Me too! Let people see what is going on. Blogged it, hope it passes on!


20 posted on 02/07/2005 6:38:59 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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