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John Kerry on Iraq on MTP and Imus
John Kerry

Posted on 02/08/2005 8:32:49 PM PST by AJFavish

The first excerpt is from Meet the Press over a week ago. The second excerpt is from an interview with Don Imus, in which Imus asks Kerry to explain what he said on MTP.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6886726/

MR. RUSSERT: Do you believe that Iraq is less a terrorist threat to the United States now than it was two years ago?

SEN. KERRY: No, it's more. And, in fact, I believe the world is less safe today than it was two and a half years ago. And, you know, I think this is one of the difficulties of what I tried to carry in the course of the campaign.

. . . .

MR. RUSSERT: Is the United States safer with the newly elected Iraqi government than we would have been with Saddam Hussein?

SEN. KERRY: Sure.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928257/

Sen. John Kerry on lessons learned

MSNBC's Don Imus talks to Sen. John Kerry about his 2004 campaign, voting against Condoleezza Rice, the war in Iraq, death benefits, and whether or not he's going to run again

TRANSCRIPT EXCERPT

Updated: 12:03 p.m. ET Feb. 7, 2005

. . . .

IMUS: Russert also asked you about if you believe that Iraq is less a terrorist threat now than it was two years ago, and you said, “No, it was more.”

And then he asked you if the United States is safer with the newly elected Iraqi government than it would have been under Saddam Hussein, and you said, “Sure,” and I’m just wondering how it could be both.

KERRY: Well, I think he asked me whether or not we were safer in the world in terms of terrorism, not whether or not Iraq was less. He did ask the other question—if I recall correctly, and I think that’s what it was, “In general are we safer?”

And the answer is, you know, we’re not because you’ve got this dispersment of the Al Qaeda in about 60 different countries. Yes, we’ve caught some of the top leaders, but there’s nobody in the intelligence community who doesn’t believe that a lot of that has been filled, you know, at different levels all around the world and now in more countries.

Secondly, we have not succeeded in joining in the initiative with the British and the French and the Germans in getting Iran and its nuclear program put to bed. They have, in fact, pushed further down the road.

And, thirdly, North Korea has more nuclear weapons today than it had when the Bush administration began, and those talks appear to be relatively stalemated and getting worse.

And today on the front page of the New York Times, there’s a story about the U.S. redesigning atomic weapons and so forth, which, you know, I think it’s the wrong road to be going down on a unilateral basis. I think if you want to redesign some and do it in a way that’s understood as part of a process with other countries, you’re stronger.

But in the end, I think the world is, in many ways, more dangerous than it was before Iraq.

IMUS: Actually, what he asked you—he did ask you if you believed Iraq is less a terrorist threat now than it was...

KERRY: Well, no, Iraq is not—I mean, look, Saddam Hussein was a bum. We all know that. Saddam Hussein, you know, had the intention down the road some time to continue to try to develop.

But at that moment in time, it was not a terrorist threat in the sense that we have a Zarqawi, a bunch of terrorists, people being blown up every day. It wasn’t that kind of threat.

And we had two-thirds of the country completely contained with the fly-over zone. He couldn’t fly an airplane anywhere. His military was getting weaker by the day. He had sanctions on them him that, yes, they were getting broken but it was a country getting weaker by the day, not unleashing terrorism the way it is today.

Thirty people were killed yesterday. That wasn’t happening on a daily basis.

I know you can come back and say, “But he killed 300,000 of his own people.” I know that. I hate that. You hate that. We all do. He was a bum, he was a thug, a terrible guy.

But if Bush had come to Congress—we don’t really need to relitigate this—but if Bush had come to Congress and said, “I want $300 billion and we’re going to lose at least, you know, 1,500 kids—ultimately, maybe more—in an effort to just bring democracy,” he would not have won that vote.

. . . .

Regards,

Allan J. Favish
http://www.allanfavish.com


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donimus; iraq; johnkerry; meetthepress

1 posted on 02/08/2005 8:32:50 PM PST by AJFavish
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To: AJFavish

Was this BEFORE or AFTER he promised to sign the SF-180?


2 posted on 02/08/2005 8:34:54 PM PST by Paloma_55
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To: AJFavish

Saddam is a "bum"---

When I think of a "bum", I think of Clem Caddilhopper(sp)-

That has been Kerry's problem all his life--he just sees things out of eyes that are focused differently than most peoples--

He calls Bush a liar---liar v. bum, bum v. liar---I would say liar is worse, so in Kerry's world Bush should be the one sitting in prison---I guess.

What a maroon!!!


3 posted on 02/08/2005 8:38:48 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: AJFavish

MR. RUSSERT: Do you believe that Iraq is less a terrorist threat to the United States now than it was two years ago?

SEN. KERRY: No, it's more. And, in fact, I believe the world is less safe today than it was two and a half years ago. And, you know, I think this is one of the difficulties of what I tried to carry in the course of the campaign.

Thank God this idiot didn`t win.


4 posted on 02/08/2005 8:39:42 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: AJFavish
He sounds incoherent...and ignorant...or on something

Thank you God for George E. Bush

5 posted on 02/08/2005 8:43:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: AJFavish
An experiment: Read this idiot's quotes while imagining Bush is saying the words.

The press would be all over Bush for such incoherent babble, yet Kerry is considered a brain surgeon.

6 posted on 02/08/2005 8:47:03 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: AJFavish
Saddam Hussein was a bum..

No he wasn`t. He was a killer. Bums live off rich widows and do nothing.

7 posted on 02/08/2005 8:52:18 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: AJFavish
I believe the world is less safe today than it was two and a half years ago.

This guy is truly on crack. Al Qaeda on the run, Saddam in custody, Democracy established in Iraq, Kaddafi gives up his nukes, tyrants not emboldened for once, Arafat is dead...What would he consider safer, the opposite?

8 posted on 02/08/2005 8:57:50 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: AJFavish

Why does the transcript of this nuanced intellectual read like a fifteen year old valley girl with the "you know" speech pattern?

Thank you God for President Bush and his clarity!


9 posted on 02/08/2005 8:58:06 PM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: AJFavish
His military was getting weaker by the day. He had sanctions on them him that, yes, they were getting broken but it was a country getting weaker by the day, not unleashing terrorism the way it is today.

And herein lies one (of many) of Kerry's problems. His many lies are too easily intercepted and decoded. Kerry, Gore, and both Clintons all lie with roughly equal facility. Kerry and Gore are, however, more easily caught. They seem to labor under the same odd pathology that compels them to tell outright whoppers when the truth would serve them better.

What's the Kerry Lie I look Forward to Most?

Eventually, someone will ask Kerry about his Naval discharge/separation in 1972, and whether-or-not is was Honorable. (I suspect most strongly that it was not honorable)

I predict yet another (to use a Kerryism) Kerry double Whopper, even though the truth would probably be more politically expedient.

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10 posted on 02/08/2005 9:12:17 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

It is so comforting to know how "safe" Kerry makes me feel knowing he talks to foreign leaders and asks them "Why don't you train more people?" wow- I wish Bush had known it was that simple.......I think he is lamer than Gore but has a similar way of lying


11 posted on 02/08/2005 9:28:08 PM PST by newzhawk
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To: maine-iac7

is george E Bush like that other kerry guy that won new york?


12 posted on 02/08/2005 9:36:07 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: 537cant be wrong

OOPS - late back here on the east coast - time for bed


13 posted on 02/08/2005 9:38:13 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7

you got that right. i dont get off work until 1:30, i'm thankful that i can check FR on a regular basis to get through the night.
have a good night. :-D


14 posted on 02/08/2005 9:40:43 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: newzhawk
Newz, I agree. Kerry is an international Pollyanna.

He actually seems to believe that foreign countries would love nothing more than to engage in thoughtful dialog and live happily ever after in some sort of mutualistic international collective.

Kerry apparently believes that there is nothing wrong with the world that a conference table (and a few American concessions) can't fix. If Kerry could only talk to them... now that would put everything right, wouldn't it?

It's as though he lives in a delusional "chick flick"* kind of world.

*(Meaning no offense, of course, to Freeper ladies who enjoy romantic comedies and maybe even a good cry.)

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15 posted on 02/08/2005 10:08:52 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: AJFavish

I am hoping that a Kerry supporter can explain to me what Kerry is saying.


16 posted on 02/09/2005 6:14:50 AM PST by AJFavish
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To: AJFavish
I thought I would just write down something I observed this past summer as I just heard Bernie go off on a rant about the war criminals Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, et al, and the dead soldiers in Iraq.

Bernie was invited to sub for Jay Severin for a several days this past summer on WTTK FM 96.9 in Boston. Jay usually has several guests take over for him when he goes on vacation. Governor Mitt Romney usually does a couple of hours and does very well. Jay will have Hannity live instead of delay take his slot for a day or two. This past year he signed up Bernie for two days and he and Bernie thought it would be a good idea.

The first hour started off with Bernie introducing himself and making a few lame jokes about his relationship with Imus and then he began the usual monologue to frame the issues of the day. Bernie went off on GWB and his war policy and used very certain angry terms to define his position, that is, GWB is a war criminal and GWB should be taken by international authorities as a war criminal and prosecuted. He invited callers and the callers were all over Bernie. He had callers just as angry in support of the President. Bernie was taken aback and he was not very eloquent in dealing with the callers or even his own position on the issue. By about the third segment and after Bernie was frustrated by the intensity of the caller's opposition to his position even to the extent of callers calling him out for a substantive physical beating the air went dead for a minute. When the station resumed broadcasting the on-air announcer stated that there was a technical problem and the broadcast would resume with "best of Jay". Since that time there has been no more Bernie on radio. He was in a word, awful.
17 posted on 02/17/2005 7:01:16 AM PST by Final Authority
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