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1 posted on 02/08/2005 10:48:57 PM PST by ainitfunny
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The ambassador claims to know of at least three individuals rendered to Uzbekistan by the United States, where cases of the authorities boiling prisoners' body parts have been documented

Mmmmm... Forbidden Broth...

2 posted on 02/08/2005 10:54:44 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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He claims that the crew onboard the Gulfstream identified themselves as "the Special Removal Unit" during radio communications on his flight to Jordan.

Bull.........

3 posted on 02/08/2005 10:57:18 PM PST by Doofer
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The "no torture" bill going through congress has one very important goal, as descibed by what's-her-name on O'Reilly tonight--once you cut through all the justifications, it's to say that the President is the one responsible for torture being used on a suspect. It's about "accountability"--something that's never a question elsewhere in the government, or in terms of terrotist nations, only in our "torture" of suspect. What is means is that in any cases of torture found from now on, the one who's finally responsible is President Bush.

This story may or may not have legs, but at some point we will see Pelosi and Reid calling for an investigation of torture which will lead to the President.

4 posted on 02/08/2005 11:00:54 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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"Despite US laws that ban America from expelling or extraditing individuals to countries where torture occurs, Scott Horton -- an expert on international law who has examined CIA renditions -- estimates that 150 people have been picked up in the CIA dragnet since 2001."

Scuze me, but handing a Saudi someone picked up in Iraq back to the Saudis is not Extradition, nor is it covered by such policy. The policy only applies if we grab him here in the US.

Just another twisting of the truth by the liberal press.

6 posted on 02/08/2005 11:04:37 PM PST by konaice
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This is too good to be true. But coming from the dark side, I have my doubts. :O)


7 posted on 02/08/2005 11:07:04 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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Old Story:

Gulfstream N379P becomes N8068V: the price of carelessness with flight logs, or notoriety, or just business practice - Gordon Housworth 11/14/2004

Cool Jet:


8 posted on 02/08/2005 11:07:17 PM PST by Between the Lines ("Christianity is not a religion; it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.")
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"Maher Arar was arrested in 2002 by US officials at John F. Kennedy airport and then claims he was put on a "executive jet" which flew him to Amman, Jordan, before he was driven to Syria."

I'm sure Syria is giving us a helping hand. They really like helping us every chance they get.

9 posted on 02/08/2005 11:07:38 PM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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"the Special Removal Unit"

Sounds like the Mossad.


12 posted on 02/08/2005 11:15:52 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (NEW AND IMPROVED TAGLINE!)
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Washington has admitted it is holding some suspects, including top Al-Qaeda operative Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, but it does not say where he is detained.

I picture Khalid's unit being boiled! Gotta love it.


Jeremy?
13 posted on 02/08/2005 11:16:01 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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"My give a dam is busted".


14 posted on 02/08/2005 11:17:23 PM PST by datura (Destroy The UN, the MSM, and China. The rest will fall into line once we get rid of these.)
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Scheuer said there had been a legal process underlying early renditions, but as more suspects were rounded up following the September 11, 2001, attacks, "all we've done is create a nightmare."

Where's the nightmare?? 550 POW's at Gitmo and another 150 "rendered" elsewhere. We're talking peanuts here. I think Scheuer is trying to capture a few minutes of fame. These are enemy troops out of uniform and should be shot after we extract all their information.

17 posted on 02/08/2005 11:24:40 PM PST by kimosabe31
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...and then sometimes forced onto a white Gulfstream V jet.

Sweet.

19 posted on 02/08/2005 11:36:51 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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By holding detainees without counsel or charges of wrongdoing, the administration of US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) "has jeopardized its chances of convicting hundreds of suspected terrorists, or even of using them as witnesses in almost any court in the world," the report said.

I suppose it never crossed the writer's mind that this administration is less interested in bringing terrorists before a judge than it is in GETTING THE REQUISITE INFO for finding as many of them as we can, and KILLING THEM.

20 posted on 02/08/2005 11:41:22 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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FYI

Who's Responsible for Rendition ?

From Michael Ledden at the National Review Online:

I doubt anyone in this administration ( which, remember, already retreated from its earlier positions on interrogation methods permitted against captured terrorist suspects) is going to point out that the most controversial and ethically questionable method of all was developed during the Clinton administration in direct response to orders that came directly from the White House. "Rendition" was a Clinton creation, and was approved by Clinton's lawyers, with no apparent cries of pain either from the Justice Department or from anyone in Congressional "oversight" committees. Gonzales might quietly make that point if anyone yells at him. It won't register with the Democrats, but it might help the public understand the real world a little better. [My emphasis]


22 posted on 02/08/2005 11:54:55 PM PST by mngalt (Did anyone see Al Franken sobbing uncontrollably on the CBC, over his patriotism being questioned?)
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Michael Scheuer a former CIA counterterrorism agent

Could this be another Democrat scumbag who was thrown overboard by Porter Goss and who now wants to (continue to) undermine Bush?

27 posted on 02/09/2005 1:36:46 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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NO mention is made that "rendition" was started under the Clinton Administration. Clinton is always crowing how the world loves him. That was because he was never so foolish as to take any action in defense of America that might be controversial. Clinton didn't accept Bin Laden when Sudan offered to arrest and extradite him to the US (although he did bomb Sudan and kill civilians the day that Monica Lewinsky testified). He handled the USS Cole attack as a law enforcement issue. He did nothing to rock the boat or effect his poll numbers as the storm gathered and then broke on our shore on 9/11. "Rendition" was just another way for Clinton to avoid doing the hard thing of addressing terrorism by letting someone else do his dirty work.
28 posted on 02/09/2005 2:47:34 AM PST by huac
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>claims he was put on a "executive jet" which flew him to Amman, Jordan, before he was driven to Syria.

Right. We're going to send him to a country that is one of the leading suppliers of insurgent terrorists in Iraq!?!?!

They forgot about the black helicopters!

Such BS


29 posted on 02/09/2005 3:05:29 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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Uh huh huh huh huh...you said "Unit."


31 posted on 02/09/2005 3:16:15 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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Ah. So liberals are still operational as defense counsel for Islamic terrorists.

That's nice.

32 posted on 02/09/2005 3:17:25 AM PST by Reactionary
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So what? No big whoop.


33 posted on 02/09/2005 3:27:36 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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