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Kook Appeal (The Forbidden Side of Scientology)
The Truth About Scientology ^ | Feb 9 2005 | Murray Luther

Posted on 02/09/2005 5:10:08 PM PST by Murray Luther

The Forbidden Side of Scientology
By the Reverend Murray Luther, Feb 9, 2005

Kook Appeal

        L. Ron Hubbard was never shy about discussing his version of the history of Earth-a scenario that falls somewhere between Star Wars and Star Trek. In a lecture he gave in November of 1959, Hubbard gave an out-of-this-world account of ancient Egypt, stating that at that time, Earth was under attack between two forces. One was the Space Command and one was the Martian Command. Although most Scientologists would avoid admitting it, they believe this completely and without reservation. Well trained Scientologists not only believe this, but they would nod sagely amongst themselves and add, "Ah, yes, the Fourth and Fifth Invader Forces. What a struggle that was."

        OK, so Scientologists adhere to some odd ideas, but that only puts them in the plentiful company of the kook community at large. For every UFO sighting, cattle mutilation, or crop circle, you'll find someone with a crackpot theory about Area 51, the Freemasons, the Illuminatti, or just about anything that can be construed into some New World Order conspiracy. In some ways Scientology is but one voice in a vast and cacophonous kook opera.

        Scientologists believe that Earth was once part of a seventy-five planet galactic confederacy that met a catastrophic demise some 75 million years ago. But is that any stranger than what the Raelians believe? If Scientology isn't your particular cup and saucer of tea, you can read Space Aliens Took Me to Their Planet, by founder Claude Vorilhan, who believes that the human race is descended from-quite literally-little green men.

        Though some critics like to dismiss the Church of Scientology as just another UFO cult, Scientologists are different in one significant way. They don't like to talk about things like the Marcab Confederacy or implant stations, or how Earth is a prison planet that's been used as a dumping ground for interstellar riff-raff. So sensitive are they about their outer space material that they've designated some of it "confidential." You need to be specially qualified before you can learn about the "wall of fire," a great cosmic calamity of galactic proportion and far reaching impact. Revealing this secret knowledge to others will get you summarily expelled from the Church.

    In spite of their many unconventional beliefs, the Church of Scientology wants so much to be part of the mainstream that they've constructed huge PR campaigns to separate themselves from the greater kook community at large. Mostly, they've been successful. Scientologists are very active in a number of social betterment groups organized by their church. Scientologists will gladly discuss all the wonderful things they're doing in the area of education, criminal rehab, drug abuse, etc. Just don't ask them about the five invader forces that have set out to conquer the universe.

        Scientologists keep mum on their outlandish beliefs with good reason. They're fully aware of how it affects their credibility. And one thing the Church of Scientology doesn't want is to be seen as just another off-the-wall fringe group. Like the Unarius movement for instance. Unarians believe that through the use of fourth dimensional physics they're able to communicate with advanced intelligent beings that exist on higher frequency planes. Like Scientologists, Unarians believe that our solar system has been inhabited by ancient interplanetary civilizations. Founder Ernest Norman writes in his book, The Truth About Mars, that the Chinese evolved from ancient interstellar migrants who began colonizing Mars a million years ago. L. Ron Hubbard acknowledged life on Mars too. He claimed that there used to be an interplanetary outpost there. He nevertheless would have disputed some of Norman's more fantastic claims. Norman believes that the Red Planet is currently populated with a network of underground cities that run on radiated atomic power. Hubbard would have pooh-poohed that notion in an instant. Martian civilization, he would have insisted, has been defunct now for hundreds of years.

        Every now and then, you'll even find some Christians jumping on board the intergalactic bandwagon. Aliens in the Bible by John Milor claims that the Bible is filled with accounts of alien visitors. A more sinister theory can be found in a book by Mark Hitchcock and Scot Overby called Extraterrestrials: What on Earth is Going On. According to them, the appearance of UFOs is a sign that the end of the world is upon us, as prophesized in Revelations in the New Testament. Even Hubbard weighed in a few times on the Christian angle. The gospel according to Hubbard is that many Christian concepts were the product of implanted ideas from invading interplanetary forces. Apparently, one such alien nation was Helatrobus, responsible for something Hubbard called the "heaven implants."

        The Church of Scientology likes to present itself as a worldwide movement that has taken its rightful place within the religious mainstream. Yet at the same time they completely embrace Hubbard's beyond-the-fringe scenarios of intergalactic war. When L. Ron Hubbard calls our solar system Sun Twelve of a stellar confederation known as Espinol, United Moons, Planets and Asteroids, you might call that science fiction. Scientologists call that scripture. Either way, that's not mainstream, that's lunatic fringe.

        Scientology may be many things, but mainstream it's not. In a 1968 lecture, L. Ron Hubbard concluded with this: "I am not from this planet." As far as I know, Hubbard never elaborated specifically as to what planet he was from, though he did once mention a brief excursion to Venus. At least he never brandished a ray gun and demand, "Take me to your leader." Come to think of it, it's too bad that he never said, "Beam me up, Scotty." Now that would have been mainstream.

Murray Luther is the pen name of a Scientologist of over twenty-five years who remains in good standing with the Church. © Copyright Murray Luther 2005. All rights Reserved


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cientology; cult; cults; fanaticism; fanatics; holycause; ideologies; kooks; lronhubbard; massmovements; newreligion; religion; scientologists; scientology
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1 posted on 02/09/2005 5:10:09 PM PST by Murray Luther
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To: Murray Luther

I'm going to take my thetan shower in a few minutes...


2 posted on 02/09/2005 5:11:48 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: Murray Luther

These are the people who need a Waco type visit.


3 posted on 02/09/2005 5:12:19 PM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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Don't be fooled, L. Ron Hubbard is still alive.


4 posted on 02/09/2005 5:14:52 PM PST by Oystir
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To: Stew Padasso

It's the only religion with Klingons and Ferrignis (sp?). That should count for something.


5 posted on 02/09/2005 5:15:11 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Murray Luther
As a proud member of the K.O.O.K.S. I must protest the improper usage of our organization's name.

K.O.O.K.S. = Keepers of Odd Knowledge Society (R)
6 posted on 02/09/2005 5:15:55 PM PST by CLS
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To: Murray Luther
L. Ron Hubbard was never shy about discussing his version of the history of Earth-a scenario that falls somewhere between Star Wars and Star Trek.

There's his problem right there. He couldn't seperate fact from fiction.

Star Trek is real, Star Wars is fake.
7 posted on 02/09/2005 5:15:55 PM PST by stylin19a (Marines - end of discussion)
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To: Murray Luther
Best book ever written about LRH and $cientology - available online for free
8 posted on 02/09/2005 5:16:17 PM PST by TFFKAMM
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To: ModelBreaker

"That should count for something."

Yeah, a straight jacket.


9 posted on 02/09/2005 5:16:32 PM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: Stew Padasso

You are kidding, right?


10 posted on 02/09/2005 5:25:28 PM PST by Remember Ruby Ridge
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To: Murray Luther

,,, interstellar riff-raff.

11 posted on 02/09/2005 5:25:46 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: PatrickHenry
as a courtesy, could you deploy the TimeCube link to this thread?

;-)

12 posted on 02/09/2005 5:26:33 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Murray Luther

Another fine column! Thanks for posting.


13 posted on 02/09/2005 5:26:50 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: Murray Luther
...Scientology is but one voice in a vast and cacophonous kook opera.

ROFL

14 posted on 02/09/2005 5:29:21 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: Murray Luther
Operation Clambake
15 posted on 02/09/2005 5:33:56 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: Murray Luther
Yawn.

Ping me when a bunch of Scientologists hijack a plane into a building, set off any roadside bombs, or decapitate people who insult their religion. Until then, we have better things to keep track of

16 posted on 02/09/2005 5:36:04 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: Murray Luther
Interesting we have had a few article on FR that spoke of them sueing and having locked up their secret stuff.

Since hte 1980's they've been on a blitz to gain recongnition -- had a lot of stars speak out for them.

Things to think about -- things to see if we see it being imported into chruch denominations.

17 posted on 02/09/2005 5:38:37 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: SauronOfMordor
They don't do those things to you for insulting their religion. They'll maybe just slander your reputation and make false IRS reports about you. If you want them to crash a plane into your house, try leaving the "church."

I once had a nodding acquaintance with a very prominent and highly-respected writer (now deceased) who knew Hubbard decades ago. This man, who was extremely thoughtful and cautious about his public statements, said that when he looked into Hubbard's eyes, he felt as if he were gazing into pure evil.

18 posted on 02/09/2005 5:47:10 PM PST by HHFi
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To: longshadow
As requested: TimeCube.
19 posted on 02/09/2005 5:48:35 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Murray Luther

Scientology has nothing on the Mormons and the Jehova's Witness. The Mormons do a much better job of keeping their secret doctrines secret but they are just as looney.

Scientologists con thousands out of all their earthly posessions on a regular basis but there are thousands of girls and women being held captive and enslaved at this very moment in Utah. They are traded away as 'wives' by their fathers at as early an age as twelve. The polygamous mormons trade their daughters away like cattle ... always with the goal of getting fresh new meat to carve.


20 posted on 02/09/2005 5:49:18 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough!)
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To: Murray Luther
Earth was under attack between two forces. One was the Space Command and one was the Martian Command.

Hey...it could've happened...I mean, I'm my own grandpa. Stranger things have happened.

FMCDH(BITS)

21 posted on 02/09/2005 5:50:16 PM PST by nothingnew (CNN REPORT: Judge says ready to sit for 6 month Jackson trial: God help us!)
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To: USF

Ping for later.


22 posted on 02/09/2005 5:56:07 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Murray Luther
how Earth is a prison planet that's been used as a dumping ground for interstellar riff-raff.

There's no more wretched hive of scum and villany.

23 posted on 02/09/2005 5:57:26 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: frogjerk
As far as I know, Hubbard never elaborated specifically as to what planet he was from


24 posted on 02/09/2005 6:11:05 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Intelligent Design is a theory, like "whatever will be, will be" is a prophecy)
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To: longshadow
Might as well give some Roland Vasco links:
Time Coup d'etat.

That, as the evidence will show, the entire timeline life span of Roland E. Vasco, that of his family and relatives, have been pasted?ith extrinsic time inclusions, by time access, to form an irrefutable proof that time had been used previously to timecoup Roland E. Vasco, steal the righfull claim to the US Presidency, the Vice Presidency and all resulting claims thereof .

25 posted on 02/09/2005 6:34:39 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Murray Luther

I have a brother that was sucked into this evil, that was bad enough but he also dragged his children down to hell with him.


26 posted on 02/09/2005 6:59:52 PM PST by MaggiesDad
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To: Murray Luther
... as prophesized in Revelations in the New Testament

Pet peeve of mine when others comment about Christianity and can't even get the name of the book correct. John had one Apocolypse - one Revelation.
27 posted on 02/09/2005 7:11:40 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: PatrickHenry
The last time I remember hearing anything like that was someplace/time in the '60's, having dropped a couple of beauties on top of acid, drinking beer to maintain moisture in my mouth and smokin' something, I suppose to have something to do with my hands ....

and the question among about eight or nine of us phreaks was ... "What is time?"

End result?

One to three days lost in the ozone, a splittin' headache that lasted a week, I gained a girlfriend or lost one ... can't remember which, and the most addled mind I thought had been expanded.

Oh yeah .... what is time?

blah blah blah ....

28 posted on 02/09/2005 7:14:41 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: knarf
Oh yeah .... what is time?

You should say ... "What is the time?" [Durned furriners. Grumble, grumble] It's 10:20 where I live.

29 posted on 02/09/2005 7:20:21 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
You should say ... "What is the time?"

I am not going fall for this ...

I am not going fall for this ...

I am not going fall for this ...

I am not going fall for this ...

30 posted on 02/09/2005 7:25:16 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Murray Luther
"Well trained Scientologists not only believe this"


All Scientologists are well trained. They believe what they are told to believe. They never truly cross "the bridge" as there always seems to be another bridge popping up after the last one costing more money. What a scam. When you have low self esteem and want to "help people' you'll believe just about anything.
31 posted on 02/09/2005 7:25:20 PM PST by Mase
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To: Oystir
Don't be fooled, L. Ron Hubbard is still alive.

I had lunch with Elivs last week. We left the building together.

32 posted on 02/09/2005 7:26:49 PM PST by Drango (tag line under repair)
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To: Murray Luther

Thanks for this -- you definitely have some stones. Have you seen the movie "Shizopolis"?


33 posted on 02/09/2005 7:38:37 PM PST by stands2reason (Mark Steyn on GWB: "This is a president who wants to leave his mark on more than a cocktail dress.")
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To: HHFi; SauronOfMordor
"They don't do those things to you for insulting their religion"

"said that when he looked into Hubbard's eyes, he felt as if he were gazing into pure evil."




The LA Times did a great expose on Scientology and Dianetics back in 1989. In it the writers detailed many cases of the "church" exacting revenge against current and former members for perceived crimes. The stories were enough to scare the writers into using pseudonyms for their bylines and it made my skin crawl to think that they had that much power and the brazenness to use it in the ways described by former members.

These are very scary people who will do anything to protect the money power pole that is Scientology.
34 posted on 02/09/2005 7:40:49 PM PST by Mase
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To: PatrickHenry

Does anybody really know what time it is?

Does anybody really care ... about time?


35 posted on 02/09/2005 7:46:40 PM PST by Kommodor (Is it just me or has the Fourth Estate become the Fifth Column?)
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To: shaggy eel

You want answers?......... I want the TRUTH!
You CAN'T HANDLE the truth!
36 posted on 02/09/2005 7:47:48 PM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: Murray Luther

They actually got our Federal Tax monies in the form of grants to help set up counseling for the people around ground zero. At the last AAFP (American Academy of Family Physicins) meeting I went to they had a booth on the exhibition floor. I got their free book(bible), I tried to read it but it made absoultely no sense. I mean one sentence to the next did not connect.


37 posted on 02/09/2005 7:49:28 PM PST by therut
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To: Murray Luther
so this must have been the inspiration for:

I actually made the mistake of seeing that flick (doesn't even qualify as "B" SciFi) late one night.

No amount of alcohol will make it look good. (I tried)

38 posted on 02/09/2005 8:52:52 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thanks for invoking one of the greatest planets of our time: Planet Bizarro.


39 posted on 02/09/2005 8:58:21 PM PST by Murray Luther (Unauthorized Correspondent for the Church of Scientology)
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To: Murray Luther

Their real measure of success is how they helped Kirstie Alley out with her diet.


40 posted on 02/09/2005 9:03:14 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: mercy

Your tin foil hat is a little askew!


41 posted on 02/09/2005 9:03:33 PM PST by Murray Luther (Unauthorized Correspondent for the Church of Scientology)
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To: Murray Luther

bttt


42 posted on 02/09/2005 9:11:44 PM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: Murray Luther

At least they don't insist that the world was created 6,000 years ago, or that some guy put hundreds of millions of animals onto a boat, to save the earth.


43 posted on 02/10/2005 6:31:48 AM PST by MonroeDNA (US OUT of the UN!)
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To: Remember Ruby Ridge

Yes.


44 posted on 02/10/2005 9:08:52 AM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: Murray Luther
There you go.....
And I thought Tom Cruse and Travolta were NOT morons..
Evidently they are..
45 posted on 02/10/2005 9:51:51 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Stew Padasso

Whew! That's good to know.


46 posted on 02/10/2005 12:29:50 PM PST by Remember Ruby Ridge
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To: Murray Luther

It's documented and on video jack. Been all over TV. Major case in the Utah courts now. Problem is so huge the state cannot deal with it. It is growing as well. Spreading to other states and other cults.


47 posted on 02/10/2005 2:47:08 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough!)
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