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Man allegedly locked girl in kennel
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Posted on 02/09/2005 7:48:01 PM PST by Rakkasan1

St. Paul - A man who allegedly put a 13-year-old girl in a dog kennel for days at a time, hit her, read her diary, and strip searched her, was charged this week with unreasonable restraint of a child.

Eric Bare, 42, of St. Paul, admitted to child protection workers that he did lock the teenager in the kennel on two different occasions, once for three consecutive days, and once for seven consecutive days. Bare said that he "fixed up the kennel nice" and that it was "a suitable temporary living arrangement."

Bare is not the girl's father, but she called him dad, according to charges.

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nice pic-he looks like Napoleon Dynamite's brother. what a freak.
1 posted on 02/09/2005 7:48:02 PM PST by Rakkasan1
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To: Rakkasan1

Bare said that he "fixed up the kennel nice" and that it was "a suitable temporary living arrangement."


So basically, he feels he did nothing wrong.
Okay, that's it, I'm calling for the DePe.


2 posted on 02/09/2005 7:50:10 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: All

Any idea as to why this girl was treated this way?


3 posted on 02/09/2005 7:50:31 PM PST by austinaero
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I have no idea. But no 13 year old deserves to be locked up in a Kennel and stripped searched.

This man was her mother's "LIVE IN Boyfriend." What type of people with children have LIVE IN bOyfriends?

DISfunctional


4 posted on 02/09/2005 7:52:38 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: ambrose

Ping!


5 posted on 02/09/2005 7:53:21 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: austinaero

Why? Don't rationalize evil.


6 posted on 02/09/2005 7:53:47 PM PST by kestrel
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To: kestrel

Phew! For a brief moment, I thought your screen name said "kennel."


7 posted on 02/09/2005 7:55:02 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: JennysCool

"Kennel" was already taken, so I settled for the name of a falcon.


8 posted on 02/09/2005 7:59:23 PM PST by kestrel
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To: LauraleeBraswell
What type of people with children have LIVE IN bOyfriends?

Mothers who take in a live-in boyfriend increase their kids' risk of being abused by something like 50 times.

A woman has to be a blithering idiot to shack up with her kids still in the house.

-ccm

9 posted on 02/09/2005 8:13:48 PM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: Rakkasan1
WTH's wrong with this world...!

"fixed up the kennel nice"

This guy is insane! He's gonna "get fixed up real nice" too if he ends up in prison instead of the loony bin. And what was w/ this girl's mother.

Oy Vey!

10 posted on 02/09/2005 8:17:27 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Some women are so selfish they cannot handle being alone and they are willing to subject their children to all sorts of abuse just to have a man in the bedroom.

Sick people!


11 posted on 02/09/2005 8:21:03 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Rakkasan1
hit her, read her diary, and strip searched her, was charged this week with unreasonable restraint of a child

Only "unreasonable restraint"? How about assault? Child molestation? Please! Unreasonable restraint? What the H is that?

12 posted on 02/09/2005 8:22:03 PM PST by SolidRedState (I've just peed my pants and no one can do a thing about it.)
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To: CyberAnt



This woman should be locked up too.


13 posted on 02/09/2005 8:25:20 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Rakkasan1
strip searched her

this isn't molestation???

14 posted on 02/09/2005 8:54:08 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

So a woman who has been divorced through no fault of her own, is expected to spend the rest of her life alone Just because she has children?

I plan on doing just that...at least until my youngest is 18 years old...but it is unfair for the world to expect it!


15 posted on 02/09/2005 9:12:41 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: trussell
"So a woman who has been divorced through no fault of her own, is expected to spend the rest of her life alone Just because she has children? "

No, not for the rest of your life. BUT, when a woman has children, yes, she is not to have her love life at home with the kids. The children come first, her needs, second, until they are grown and out of the house. I commend you for choosing the latter. And, yes, the world should expect it. That's what's wrong with our society today - to much me, me, me - at the expense of kids.

16 posted on 02/09/2005 9:19:20 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

to much = too much


17 posted on 02/09/2005 9:20:24 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: Rakkasan1

18 posted on 02/09/2005 9:31:34 PM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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To: jackibutterfly
"So a woman who has been divorced through no fault of her own, is expected to spend the rest of her life alone Just because she has children? "-TRussell

"No, not for the rest of your life. BUT, when a woman has children, yes, she is not to have her love life at home with the kids." -JackiButterfly

Every parent regardless of the situation has a God given responstibility to their kids. The parent is obligated to protect the child even if the abuse is coming from a spouse or natural parent, much less a live in boyfriend.

The Biblical model is that you get married, you don't commit fornication. But even given that they are living together, they still have an obligation to love each other and love those children.

Anything less than a failure to love is sin.

19 posted on 02/09/2005 9:34:36 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Fruitbat

Hopefully this nut will soon get to experience being locked up in a small space for himself.


20 posted on 02/09/2005 9:35:08 PM PST by dog breath
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To: DannyTN
cORRECTION

"Anything less than a failure to love is sin."

21 posted on 02/09/2005 9:37:01 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ccmay

Excuse me, but the MOTHER was an abuser too! She 'took food to the girl in the kennel' - HELLO! The mother should be charged too.


22 posted on 02/09/2005 9:37:11 PM PST by hardworking (-O-U)
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To: hardworking

Read the article. She was.


23 posted on 02/09/2005 9:39:59 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Not a She-Mullet.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

She was charged also.


24 posted on 02/09/2005 9:40:51 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Not a She-Mullet.)
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To: Rakkasan1

read her diary?? Why is that even on the list?


25 posted on 02/09/2005 9:50:31 PM PST by GeronL (--- Loading, Loading...)
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To: trussell

I don't think any woman should stop dating just because she has children. As a man, I would not "shack up" with any woman, married, unmarried, or with children. If the bond is that strong, a committment is necessary, both for the single mother, and the children.


26 posted on 02/09/2005 10:23:16 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased From "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

I can agree with that. I will not move a man into my home unless and until he has made a committment to me and my children.

My intent is to stay single until my children are grown, but I don't think it is right for others to expect the single parents to stay that way.


27 posted on 02/09/2005 10:30:09 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: trussell

Agreed on all counts. G'night Truss.


28 posted on 02/09/2005 10:34:45 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased From "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

Good night IA


29 posted on 02/09/2005 10:36:17 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: ccmay
Mothers who take in a live-in boyfriend increase their kids' risk of being abused by something like 50 times.

A woman has to be a blithering idiot to shack up with her kids still in the house.

You're right. Unfortunately, this practice is common and widely-acceptly. A couple of generations ago, a mother with minor children shacking up with a man seriously faced losing custody of her children.

30 posted on 02/09/2005 10:37:21 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I agree .. it's child abuse, child neglect, child endangerment, etc.


31 posted on 02/09/2005 10:40:43 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: jackibutterfly

no shack up studs and no shack up honey's.........goes both ways.....


32 posted on 02/09/2005 10:52:22 PM PST by cherry
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To: jackibutterfly
I can't agree with what you've said...it seems unreasonable. If a man is willing (the woman too) to go through a proper courtship, and they feel that God has intended for them to be together, do you suggest they go against what they feel is Gods will for their lives? I do not approve of living together, especially when kids are involved...but I do believe that if God brings someone into our lives that He wants us to be with forever, then we should follow His direction for that...not what some people might or might not approve of.
33 posted on 02/09/2005 11:02:07 PM PST by codyjacksmom (Be nice! I'm blonde and will work for an explanation.)
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To: Rakkasan1

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5231694.html

A St. Paul mother and her live-in boyfriend are accused of locking the woman's 11-year-old daughter in a chain-link dog kennel in a warehouse basement, leaving her cold and, one night, naked.

Deborah L. Cameron and Eric Bare appeared in Ramsey County District Court on Wednesday, each charged with two counts of unreasonable restraint of a child, a gross misdemeanor. ...

...Bare and Cameron were released from jail Wednesday night after Bare posted $5,000 bail and Cameron posted $2,000 bail. Conditions for their release included having no contact with the girl and maintaining regular contact with pretrial release officials. County Attorney Susan Gaertner said she has never seen a case like this in her 20 years as a prosecutor. She said the couple's actions are deserving of more serious charges, but prosecutors could not find a state felony law that fit the conduct.


34 posted on 02/09/2005 11:03:43 PM PST by maggief
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To: LauraleeBraswell
What type of people with children have LIVE IN bOyfriends?

My wife for one. For three months before our wedding we lived together to save money to pay for the wedding.

There's a lot more here than just the moral considerations of shacking up. Being a single parent is hard. Harder than you (hopefully) will ever know. some people just can't handle it and they make poor decisions, like this woman.

The other consideration is that kids need a father figure. If their real dad doesn't give a damn and there are no uncles or grandpa around, someone needs to be there to tell the girls they're pretty and teach the boys how to spit.

35 posted on 02/09/2005 11:08:54 PM PST by bad company (Having a political debate with a liberal is like playing hangman with someone that can't spell.)
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To: maggiefluffs

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/10860073.htm

...The girl is in protective custody. Child Protection Services investigators had two previous contacts with the girl. Investigators said they had no evidence to corroborate the girl's allegations until now.

Calling the case abhorrent, Ramsey County Attorney Susan Gaertner said her staff scoured the penal code before filing charges.

"Twenty years as a prosecutor and I have not seen anything like this," Gaertner said. "There are a number of experienced prosecutors in my office, myself included, who are shocked and saddened by these allegations. … We looked very hard at any potential felony that could be charged. We looked really carefully at the sexual assault statute to see if anything applied. Nothing did."

She said her office did not know about the girl's previous attempts to get help.

"The allegations were never brought to our office," Gaertner said. "I don't believe the police were contacted." ...

...One neighbor, who refused to identify herself, said she heard the adults berate the girl, calling her a freak. The neighbor said the girl dressed in dark, Gothic clothing.


36 posted on 02/09/2005 11:09:24 PM PST by maggief
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To: bad company
""For three months before our wedding we lived together to save money to pay for the wedding.""

Hey, AS long as the DATE was set. That's different. I'm not sure if your wife had children already, but you were there for three months, the date was set, the ring was bought, DIFFERENT from 7 years.

""There's a lot more here than just the moral considerations of shacking up.""

This woman had a daughter. This woman also had the type of man who was willing to live with her and her child for 7 years and was not willing to marry her. Where was was the ring? Oh, wait there wasn't one!

If she wants to devote 7 years of her life to a man who WON'T marry her FINE,(why buy the cow lala) she can waste her time. But to involve a child.

""Being a single parent is hard. Harder than you (hopefully) will ever know. """

It is hard. You know what else is harder? Being a 13 year old girl who is locked in a DOG KENNEL by her mother's LIVE-In-Boyfriend.

""some people just can't handle it and they make poor decisions, like this woman.""

Like this guy? Was putting a 13 year old in a dog Kennel Bad judgment? I'm sure this wasn't the first incident of WARNING. There is no excuse for letting someone do that to your child.

""The other consideration is that kids need a father figure.""
A live in boyfriend is not a good father figure. For one he won't commit- not a good example. And in this case, he was a real dirtbag.

If this woman wanted a boyfriend, that's fine. Don't get your kids involved until it gets serious.


""If their real dad doesn't give a damn and there are no uncles or grandpa around, someone needs to be there to tell the girls they're pretty and teach the boys how to spit.""

That was the cutest thing I ever read. But still, Live in boyfriends are Bad examples. And uncle or a grandpa is fine. And if a woman wants to get remarried, she shouldn't involve her children in her relationship until it gets to the point where marriage is a serious option. And then she needs to see how they interact.
37 posted on 02/10/2005 4:07:58 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: trussell
""So a woman who has been divorced through no fault of her own, is expected to spend the rest of her life alone Just because she has children?""

No, I didn't say that.

If she wants to get Remarried, good for her. But a live in Boyfriend- as a general rule-they are men who are unable to commit or they just don't love you.

If you are an adult and you want to waste time on a livin boyfriend- As an adult it is your decision. Just don't subject your children to a dysfunctional relationship.

Theres also a new modern way of thinking "We have to see if we love eachother" WRONG- bad idea. If you love eachother there should be little doubt. A functional relationship is when you both love each other and are married.

That's what I meant. And I bet you agree.
38 posted on 02/10/2005 4:19:51 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Your notion works good if there are kids involved. But, sadly today, the institution of marriage is a bad deal for men.


39 posted on 02/10/2005 4:50:50 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder

But, sadly today, the institution of marriage is a bad deal for men.


No it isn't. I've noticed the brainwashing that it's bad for women too since Men oppress you.

Marriage is a good idea and a good deal. Married people are happier.


40 posted on 02/10/2005 4:56:50 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Rudder



Breaking the institution of marriage down will occur in a breakdown in Society. Notice how it's the Dems who push this single mother and gay parent stuff.


41 posted on 02/10/2005 5:03:53 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: trussell
My intent is to stay single until my children are grown, but I don't think it is right for others to expect the single parents to stay that way.

I think it is lovely when a divorced person can find a good, strong relationship and bring another parent into the home. Unfortunately, there are a lot of occasions when single people, generally mothers, will move a loser boyfriend into the house. It does seem that live-in boyfriends are particularly dangerous to children.

You say that you intend to stay single and that is very admirable. I agree that it is likely a difficult and lonely thing to contemplate. But I assume that you are doing it because it is best for your children. Many people will not place their children ahead of themselves and will enter into just any kind of relationship to avoid being alone.

42 posted on 02/10/2005 5:11:54 AM PST by Dianna
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Breaking the institution of marriage down will has occurred in a breakdown in Society.
43 posted on 02/10/2005 5:13:56 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Dianna
It does seem that live-in boyfriends are particularly dangerous to children.

Don't overlook the fact that data clearly show, when it comes to child abouse, mothers are the leading the pack.

44 posted on 02/10/2005 5:18:55 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Rakkasan1
are said that he "fixed up the kennel nice" and that it was "a suitable temporary living arrangement."

From some of the women hating threads that have been going on in here, I'm inclined to think that most men think this is OK to do. Course the 'cage' would be the house that they fixed up 'nice'....

45 posted on 02/10/2005 5:19:01 AM PST by Katy_Katarina
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To: Rakkasan1

I'm not suggesting that this mitigates what they did to the 13YO at all, but I foresee their defense will be along the lines of, "She was wild and uncontrollable. We tried everything else and nothing worked, so we had to do SOMETHING to keep her from hurting herself by going out and doing drugs and sex parties and stuff."


46 posted on 02/10/2005 5:27:55 AM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: KATY_KATARINA
I'm inclined to think that most men think this is OK to do.(cage children).

Whoa! A feminazi in our ranks!!

At least we don't drown them in bathtubs.

47 posted on 02/10/2005 5:29:56 AM PST by Rudder
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To: trussell

I think it's often just as hard on the kids when dad shacks up with the first woman who comes along --- parents can date but they shouldn't bring lovers home, they can do the dating away from home and not have their mistakes hurt the kids.


48 posted on 02/10/2005 5:49:03 AM PST by FITZ
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To: trussell
I agree with you trussell. I will not live with a man till my kids are grown, haven't even had a man pick me up for a date at my home. I have been over protective of my children since their Father died, but I still allow myself a social life.
Some Mothers are irresponsible, some Fathers too.
But I would like to think there are more out there like you and I, and I would like to think that most folks have the sense to recognize that.
49 posted on 02/10/2005 5:53:06 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Rudder

WHy did you add 'cage children' and insinuate that's what I meant? I meant it with tongue in cheek--that men seem to want to keep women home in the kitchen and bedroom. Adding your personal comments and twisting what I meant was wrong. I would appreciate it if you would not manipulate what I say and then call me names.


50 posted on 02/10/2005 6:01:03 AM PST by Katy_Katarina
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