Who's the Anti-Semite? Arguments over bad movies show perils of self-hatred

The Jewish Exponent ^ | 1/27/2005 | Jonathan S. Tobin

[free_life]

As to your post 176....go back and read what you have said here about Gibson, the movie and the remarks about Christ in the article you felt was important to post. Not that it is likely to help in your case.

But sure you were just being a movie critic and well it just happened to be a movie Gibson made and it just happened to be a movie about Christ who you make sure to point out is not the Messiah and it just happen to be about a Rabbi who defends Gibson and his movie. Give us a break! You can't even be honest about your motives.

Believe what you want...I have wasted enough time with you and your lack of honesty.

[malakhi]

Questioning Christian beliefs on the messiah is tantamount to degrading and/or insulting their faith. Questioning Jewish beliefs on the topic of the messiah is only, "trying to help us and keep us from burning in hell".

Sure. As I said in #175, disbelieving in Judaism is okay; disbelieving in Christianity is an "attack on God".

[malakhi]

As to your post 176....go back and read what you have said here about Gibson, the movie and the remarks about Christ in the article you felt was important to post. Not that it is likely to help in your case.

Nope. YOU made the accusation that I 'insulted' Jesus. YOU provide the evidence to back it up. Or withdraw the accusation. Your option. Your nonresponsiveness will be taken as an admission that you cannot prove your claim.

You can't even be honest about your motives.

You haven't the foggiest clue why I posted this thread, do you?

Believe what you want.

Thank you. I do.

I have wasted enough time with you and your lack of honesty.

Buh bye.

[free_life]

I said no such thing
Sure you did.


"You do not just reject Christ as Messiah but feel you must insult Him"

"my dislike of your attack on God, His Son Jesus"

"Be honest, you hate Him"

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All three examples say "you" or "your" not "all non-Christians". Dig a little deeper, your hole is getting deeper! goodbye!

[malakhi]

All three examples say "you" or "your" not "all non-Christians". Dig a little deeper, your hole is getting deeper!

Um, nope, remember this?

"I have personally heard the hatred in Synagogue and out of Synagogue."

That wasn't me you were talking about, sparky.

Still waiting for you to provide evidence that I 'insulted' Jesus. Oh, and while you're at it, you can point out my "attack on God" too.

[free_life]

First of all my name is not sparky. I wondered how long it would take for you to insult me! I have refrained from calling you a troll, tho the shoe fits!

Um, Yep! all 3 examples you quoted me as saying, where directed by me at you, not all non- Christians. You cannot not even debate honestly.

As for my comment, "I have personally heard the hatred in Synagogue and out of Synagogue". I have, it is a fact and in no way says that I have the opinion that all non-Christians are this way or all Jews are that way...as a matter a fact your attack piece attacks a Rabbi who is also aware of this. Again you twist and cannot debate honestly.

As for your comment - Your nonresponsiveness will be taken as an admission that you cannot prove your claim.

I did not know you were the rule master around here...should I bow before you too?

I have made it clear how you have insulted God and his Son Jesus already, you just refuse to acknowledge why you have said what you have said..

Anyways ...I will waste no more time with you..so this is your big chance to mouth off and say what you want as I will not respond to you trolling here...my only mistake is taking the bait.
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[malakhi]

I have refrained from calling you a troll

No, you've just called me "angry", "hateful" and "insulting".

tho the shoe fits!

That's funny, considering I've been here for about six years longer than you have, sparky.

in no way says that I have the opinion that all non-Christians are this way or all Jews are that way

Okay, I'll bite. Give me an example of how one could disagree with Christianity without being labelled by you as "angry", "hateful" and "insulting".

I did not know you were the rule master around here...should I bow before you too?

Nah, we're pretty informal around here. Just answering the question would be fine.

I have made it clear how you have insulted God and his Son Jesus already, you just refuse to acknowledge why you have said what you have said..

No, you haven't. Simply asserting that you've answered it doesn't change the reality that you haven't. What you did is wave your hands around and say, "go back and read what you have said here". That's not answering my question. That's asking me to go back over all my posts and try to guess what YOU found to be "insulting" and an "attack on God". Since YOU'VE made those claims, it is up to YOU to substantiate them. As far as I can tell, you're just pissed off that I don't agree with your personal religious opinions, and that I don't hesitate forthrightly to voice my disagreement. For that, you call me "hateful". Sorry sparky, but I'm not going to pretend to agree with you in order to make you feel validated in your beliefs.

I'm going offline until at least Saturday night. I'll reply to your next nonresponsive post at that time.

[lainde]

bttt

[ET(end tyranny)]

The portrayal of an average Jewish family as decadent and degenerate by Hollywood contributes to a general misperception especially when played by actors of Jewish ancestry who are decadent and degenerate. As to Barbra and Dustin, Fok them.

Could you please elaborate. What EXACTLY has Dustin Hoffman done in his private life that you consider decadent and degenerate?

[Shisan]

You are correct. That was ambiguous and I owe him an apology. But not her.