Posted on 02/10/2005 10:38:58 AM PST by tang-soo
Signs of times? To me it smells of big time staged up set up by organized cells intent on corroborating false evidences within government, accross state and federal lines of conivence.
They are not going to stilt gold with this and raise a lot of spirit and moneys. THese floozy loozies are going to hell anyways.
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It has since been revealed that homosexual attorneys from the U.S. Justice Department Civil Rights Division were among the 'celebrants' at 'Outfest'. They allegedly 'advised' the police to arrest the Christians and helped them formulate the charges.
Consequently, appeals from the Christian group to the Department of Justice, claiming that their civil rights were violated fell on deaf ears.
What makes this even more egregious is the fact that an article printed in the Philadelphia Gay News, published BEFORE the 'Outfest' festival, announced -- in advance -- that the organizers intended to block Christians from access to the event.
"Charges were dropped against six of the 11 Christians, apparently because they were not seen quoting Scripture on the videotape, since, in this case, quoting the Bible is what constitutes the 'corpus delecti' (body of the crime)."
So now it's a crime to quote the Bible in the presence of homosexuals.
These people are re not up for 47 years and werent just preaching but raided the stage of a permitted demonstration. They were trying to interfere with the gays right to speak more than speak themselves. Whoever wrote this is misrepresenting it. Real Christians dont bear false witness.
If the situation were turned around, Id expect you to all support Act Ups arrest for preaching with bullhorns at the inauguration parade and refusing the police orders to return to their counter protest area. Thats exactly the same as this case
Demonstrations and emotional counter demonstrators are kept apart for a reason . The author is helping these phony Bush hating Christians is playing good people here for suckers. Ive spent time working to convince people of that here, but Im not going to waste more time rearguing this case. Regards.
It's time to stop being shocked by these things and start taking action. What can we do to stop this? To whom do we need to write? On whom do we need to put pressure? The best and fastest route is to get this before members of Congress and raise up such a hue and cry that they are forced to put pressure on the Justice Department. I am writing my Senators and my Representative with a copy of this. I suggest y'all do the same.
Many demonstrators at events such as Dem/Rep Conventions are often arrested and charged with such MISDEMEANORS as disturbing the peace, ect. These Christians are charged with a FELONY: a Hate Crime. A new law that says if special victims groups are harrassed it is a felony with long prison terms as punishment. Funny, though, Christians aren't listed on the protected list of victims.
This does not necessarily follow. Just about every religion has a "heaven." They may not accept the validity of Jesus' teachings, but it does not follow they do not accept the existence of a heaven.
And many arent. If theyd promise not to do it again, charges would probably be dropped. But these guys are virtual professional protestors probably hoping to be arrested and now playing the media for all its worth. Dont get fooled.
You missed my point about misdemeanor vs hate crime felony. It is usually liberals who are the professional protestors, though. Whatever happened to, "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?" We have a first amendment that gives us the right to free speech. There is no amendment giving anyone the right not to be offended.
You missed my point about misdemeanor vs hate crime felony. It is usually liberals who are the professional protestors, though. Whatever happened to, "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?" We have a first amendment that gives us the right to free speech. There is no amendment giving anyone the right not to be offended.
Drat! Hit post button twice again.
the media and the enemies of Christians are out to portray and plant in people's minds that Christianity is a religion of hate. Just last night, on television the inane Wife Swap portrayed a Christian woman as a lesbian hating gayaphobe, while the lesbian was portrayed as Saint Lesbo, and that was followed by a segment on the local news about clergy abuse and the mention of pedophilac priests. It's an insidious and purposeful attack, don't kid yourselves
Were not all charges against the four demosntrators intially indicted dropped?
I missed nothing. Please read the links in my first post, especially the one labeled Kept apart for a reason. They address all your confusions.
Have you viewed the video? I didn't see any stage being raided. I believe these folks had permission to be there as well; in any event they were on a public street and have 1st amendment protection as well.
Further, their crimes aren't from using a bullhorn, otherwise they would simply be charged with disturbing the peace. Those who were citing scripture were held for trial, and those who were not had the charges dismissed. That should frighten everyone, even an atheist.
>>It's an insidious and purposeful attack, don't kid yourselves<<
agreed
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