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GET A GRIP, PLEASE
NRO - TC ^ | February 10, 2005 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 02/10/2005 3:30:57 PM PST by swilhelm73

The Pentagon should probably feel good about today's latest (Page One!) installment in the faux torture controversy, offered up by the Washington Post. You know this story has to be collapsing of its own absurd weight when the tugging on our national heart strings now involves this egregious "abuse" of Muslim men: They are being forced to endure the deep indignity of being questioned by women clad in tee-shirts.

This is the 21st Century America of Maplethorp, Piss-Christ, MTV, and R-rated movies that would have been X-rated 10 years ago -- the America where a poor Muslim man trying to watch a professional football game can't get through the first quarter without enduring the deep indignity of three Viagra commercials. Anyone who raises the slightest complaint about the unflinching coarseness all around us is labeled by the self-same Washington Post as a modern day Mrs. Grundy. Yet, we are now supposed to get worked up over the anxiety caused to jihadists -- who would otherwise be home eagerly watching the latest beheading on al-Jazeera -- from being exposed to women whose appearance and conduct is probably too tame for daytime television in this country.

And, by the way, what is it that the Islamo-fascists want? They want to get out of Guantanamo Bay and get back to the jihad where, if they are lucky, as their Wahhabist belief-system defines luck, they will kill us while martyring themselves and thus be entitled to their 72 virgins. My question for the Washington Post: Just what exactly do you reckon these demure, dignified fellows figure on doing with the said virgins?

The most inane line of this inane article: "Some of the accounts resemble the sexual aspects of the humiliation of Iraqi prisoners at the U.S. prison at Abu Ghraib. Photographs that became public last year showed a servicewoman there holding naked prisoners on a leash and posing next to a pile of naked prisoners." Puleease get a grip here. The article describes exposure to women wearing tee-shirts, the smearing on some prisoners of small amounts of red dye that they were led to believe was menstrual blood, and one highly dubious allegation by a prisoner that he was provocatively approached by three women in their underwear before being beaten by a team of soldiers. Some of this sounds idiotic if it actually happened, but it certainly is not Abu Ghraib. Isn't there any actual news that is worthy of page one?


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: mediabias; pressbias

1 posted on 02/10/2005 3:30:57 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

The Taliban committed egregious rapes. Iraqi's have traditionally raped and sexually abused prisoners of any sex. Thet are NOT puritanical.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 3:36:18 PM PST by Spok
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To: swilhelm73
"Anyone who raises the slightest complaint about the unflinching coarseness all around us is labeled by the self-same Washington Post as a modern day Mrs. Grundy. Yet, we are now supposed to get worked up over the anxiety caused to jihadists -- who would otherwise be home eagerly watching the latest beheading on al-Jazeera -- from being exposed to women whose appearance and conduct is probably too tame for daytime television in this country."
3 posted on 02/10/2005 3:39:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: swilhelm73

Really disgusting that the terrorists are being portrayed as deeply moral men who are offended by a woman in a t shirt, or just by having a woman anywhere near them. These killers degrade and oppress women every chance they get (e.g. Afghanistan). They are not chaste, they are dangerous violent bigots. They have zero right to have female U.S. soldiers kept away from them. It is offensive to suggest they have such a right.


4 posted on 02/10/2005 3:41:06 PM PST by Williams
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To: Spok
You're exactly right. A Muslim cab driver drove me home from the airport awhile back and I asked him what he thought about the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. He said that Rushdie should definitely be killed...but first he should be raped, so as to be properly humiliated. That guy said he'd do it himself. It was his duty.

He didn't mention panties on the head.

5 posted on 02/10/2005 3:41:40 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Spok
Abu Ghirab is the only thing they've done in four years that initially caused Bush's numbers to drop. They will not give it up. That's why they used it with Condi, bring it up now, and have been dragging this dead horse around for nearly a year.

The old media has finally found a storyline besides Watergate, the Civil Rights Movement, and VietNam.

6 posted on 02/10/2005 3:42:18 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: swilhelm73

"Just what exactly do you reckon these demure, dignified fellows figure on doing with the said virgins? "

grape peelers?

lol


7 posted on 02/10/2005 3:45:29 PM PST by sdpatriot ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." Rummy)
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To: swilhelm73

The best way to stop offending the enemy is to kill them.


8 posted on 02/10/2005 3:50:22 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: swilhelm73
ahh - so our women guards - in 100+ weather - should wear burkas?

Someone needs to reminds these terrorists that THEY are the prisoners...not the ones in charge. (needs to remind the libs too)

9 posted on 02/10/2005 4:01:30 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: swilhelm73
I have found it difficult to control the rolling of my eyeballs when this issue came to my attention.

I'd like to know where are the women's groups to scream for equality and decry "hate speech"......

10 posted on 02/10/2005 4:11:23 PM PST by LarkNeelie (Shock 'N Awe - liberals stunned by defeat on 11/2/04)
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To: Deb
You're exactly right. A Muslim cab driver drove me home from the airport awhile back and I asked him what he thought about the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. He said that Rushdie should definitely be killed...but first he should be raped, so as to be properly humiliated. That guy said he'd do it himself. It was his duty.

Did you give him a tip?
11 posted on 02/10/2005 4:16:02 PM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: swilhelm73
Some of this sounds idiotic if it actually happened, but it certainly is not Abu Ghraib. Isn't there any actual news that is worthy of page one?

And Abu Ghraib was nothing compared to Saddam's son's little play toys, including the shredder. I wouldn't call anything I've heard about Abu Ghraib torture. Humiliation yes, even intimidation (the dogs), but not torture.

12 posted on 02/10/2005 4:20:19 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Deb
You're exactly right. A Muslim cab driver drove me home from the airport awhile back and I asked him what he thought about the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. He said that Rushdie should definitely be killed...but first he should be raped, so as to be properly humiliated. That guy said he'd do it himself. It was his duty.

Now I need to know how much you Tipped?.....LOL! :*)
13 posted on 02/10/2005 4:20:57 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: swilhelm73
They are being forced to endure the deep indignity of being questioned by women clad in tee-shirts.

If I had my way, every terrorist would be questioned while being beaten and force-fed pork.

14 posted on 02/10/2005 9:07:33 PM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: cmsgop; Beckwith

First Rule of Comedy...Never go for the easy one! Shame, shame.


15 posted on 02/11/2005 2:42:29 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
LOL! So True

I know I am better than that.. :*)
16 posted on 02/11/2005 3:06:40 PM PST by cmsgop (Bill, put that puddin pop away........)
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To: Deb

I don't know what comedy has to do with my question. Did you give that cab driver a tip?

Inquiring minds want to know.


17 posted on 02/12/2005 1:43:53 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: Williams

They don't have any rights. Condign punishment could be meted out at any time we choose. Terrorists don't have rights. We've chosen to allow this fiction, so far, but it isn't any more real than a soap bubble...


18 posted on 02/12/2005 1:49:43 AM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Beckwith

Of course, I (over) tip everyone...especially lunatic, Islamic, terorist and potential rapist, cab drivers.


19 posted on 02/14/2005 4:55:24 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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