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Chávez arming to fight attack by U.S.
The Miami Herald ^ | Feb. 12, 2005 | Phil Gunson and Steven Dudley

Posted on 02/12/2005 7:28:32 AM PST by David1

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To: David1

If we stopped the War on Varios Drugas, Chavez would be easy pickings. As long as we keep the narco trade black it empowers thugs like he and Castro.


51 posted on 02/12/2005 9:45:16 AM PST by bvw
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To: chilepepper
The last time that border flared up, in 1895, was also the last time the US and UK almost came to blows. The UK supported Guyana to pressure a debtor Venezuela. Pres. Cleveland, with the noisy support (was there any other kind?) of TR, backed Venezuela and invoked the Monroe Doctrine (ah, how quaint). The Brits backed down and their documents later made clear that they decided then and there never to challenge us again in the Western Hemisphere.

Anyway, much like Saddam's 19th province claim on Kuwait and the Argies claim on The Falklands, the history of this border is murky enough to encourage Chavez. After all, if he moves in the near term, he'd have a pretty solid SA block behind him or neutral. But the geography makes me almost hope he tries something conventional, rather than the more covert, and successful, means he's now using in Bolivia and Colombia. Park a carrier or two off the coast and watch Hugo's pricey new toys explode.

52 posted on 02/12/2005 9:46:15 AM PST by BroncosFan ("It's worse than a crime - it's a mistake." Talleyrand.)
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To: bvw

Hugo's got oil. He's Castro's new sugar daddy. Fidel tried to use drug revenue to replace the USSR's backing, but it just wasn't getting the job done. The Leftists are gaining ground in corners of LA where drugs are but a secondary issue.


53 posted on 02/12/2005 9:48:20 AM PST by BroncosFan ("It's worse than a crime - it's a mistake." Talleyrand.)
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To: BroncosFan
Watch Guyana. Venezuela has a colorable claim to the western half of it. It's been a low level dispute for over a century. Hugo might see it as an easy win that would sure up his lagging numbers at home. Of course, such a naked violation of sovereignty would make it easy for the US then to intervene.

I think you are onto something. I will watch with great interest. All of what you said, plus, Guyana has a reputation for attracting low-life-loser-KoolAid-drinkers.

I also find your use of the word, "colorable", fascinating in this context.

54 posted on 02/12/2005 9:48:56 AM PST by Migraine
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To: BroncosFan

Not Castro. The illegal "right-wing narcoista" trade throughout Central America. Creates social and political dynamics that allow a Chavez standing. Massive corruption among the authorities.


55 posted on 02/12/2005 9:52:38 AM PST by bvw
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The Communists remind me of the Russia vs. USA basketball game in the Munich Olympics - have the officials on your side and keep playing until you win, regardless of the rules.

...sounds a lot like the Democracks in Wash State, too, come to think of it.

56 posted on 02/12/2005 9:54:45 AM PST by Migraine
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To: David1

the houston chronicle has an article today that chavez is inviting conocophilips in for an oil deal.


57 posted on 02/12/2005 9:56:19 AM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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To: David1

"propose that we move to the offensive, just like the imperialists have moved to the bloody and ruthless offensive. If you don't believe me, look at Iraq."

If nothing else, it has been worth the price to see these little dogturd despots wet their pants when they think about President Bush and the US military. Chavez, Jong Il, Gaddafi, the Iranian mullahs, all quaking in their silken slippers.


58 posted on 02/12/2005 10:08:36 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: kingsurfer

Buying 40 helicopters and 50 Mig 29's? That'll help the "lower masses" plenty.


59 posted on 02/12/2005 10:10:58 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: kingsurfer

Baloney - poverty has shot up since this thug got his hands on the oil. His oil benefits a few cronies on the ground and most of the billions are in Cayman island banks or safe with fidel who's suddenly gotten a bunch of billions no one knows how he managed to get. There are gonna be some big news stories out there coming soon about chavez's massive oil ripoff. By their results do you judge them and right now, despite record-high oil prices, venezuela's poor are poorer than ever.


60 posted on 02/12/2005 10:14:26 AM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: drt1; Clara Lou

The scumbag is only in office by virtue of Ukrainian-style fraud! Everyone there hates him and cordially wishes him a bullet.


61 posted on 02/12/2005 10:15:52 AM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: kingsurfer

"Was Ortega the one that came in after the revolution? "

Ortega was the one who hijacked the 'revolution' even as we facilitated the departure of Somoza.

Same as when we ousted Battista to aid the Cuban people, Castro hijacked the revolution and turned it into a stalinist nightmare.


62 posted on 02/12/2005 10:16:42 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Migraine
...sounds a lot like the Democracks in Wash State, too, come to think of it.

Another excellent example. I am sure there are others still to come.

63 posted on 02/12/2005 10:38:55 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: David1

bump


64 posted on 02/12/2005 12:14:44 PM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: meatloaf

"We need to rethink high speed rail along the eastern corridor and other options that will eventually lessen our dependence on oil."

What do you mean by "we"? Most of the time "we" means the government spending funds extorted from us for unviable enterprises that eat up ever more extorted money. Does the word "Amtrak" mean anything to you?


65 posted on 02/13/2005 7:41:12 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Kitten Festival

Do you have any links for this?
The reason I made my post is that I understand that Chavez has had more social programs than the opposition. In fact when the coup took place virtually all his social programs were immediately shut down. The schools, the medicals centres, the free food for children in the schools.

I would be interested in seeing some facts and statistics about Venezeula if you have any.


66 posted on 02/13/2005 10:50:26 AM PST by kingsurfer
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