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It's Dean vs. Clark ('Clark and Dean teams have been warring over the future of Democratic Party')
US News ^ | 2/9/05 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 02/12/2005 2:50:52 PM PST by Cableguy

Here's another reason why some Democrats are fretting over installing antiwar former presidential candidate Howard Dean as chair of the Democratic National Committee. He might cede national defense to the Republicans. That's the charge from associates of another former presidential candidate, former NATO boss Wes Clark. Seems the Clark and Dean teams have been warring over the future of the Democratic Party, and now that threatens to spill into the public if Dean, as expected, wins the chairmanship this Saturday. Here's the fight: Clark wants the Democrats deeply involved in foreign policy and the war, and Dean's team isn't as jazzed about that. They see domestic policy and issues like Social Security and the deficit as the keys to success. But this might be the real rub against Dean: Clark fans think the retired general will be marginalized by Dean. Chart the fight on their blogs.

Dean fans blog here: www.peopleforchange.net Clark supporters chat here: chat.forclark.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dncchairman; howarddean; wesclark
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I like it: Dean vs. Hillary vs. Clark vs. Edwards vs. Kerry vs. others... Pass the popcorn.
1 posted on 02/12/2005 2:50:53 PM PST by Cableguy
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To: Cableguy

The long knives are coming out


2 posted on 02/12/2005 2:54:29 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Cableguy

To me, it seems a strange process indeed which would permit a career military man to turn into a total pantywaist. Beats hell outta me. I don't get it. I guess there are misfits in every outfit; I just can't explain it. It sort of reminds me of theologians who don't believe anything.


3 posted on 02/12/2005 2:55:34 PM PST by Migraine
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To: Cableguy
Sounds like a good Brouhaha to me. Clark is such a lightweight he'll soon get back into the shadows IMO.
4 posted on 02/12/2005 2:55:37 PM PST by drt1
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To: Cableguy

Nice. These guys are both idiots.


5 posted on 02/12/2005 2:56:04 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Please leave a message after the burp....)
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To: Cableguy

I wonder which of these, erm... *cough* "titans" will win that battle.


6 posted on 02/12/2005 2:56:16 PM PST by thoughtomator (reporting from Cylon-occupied Caprica)
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To: Migraine

Clark advanced in his career by being a politician, not because of his military aptitude. He never had any military core values, he was just a people-pleaser. It's a pretty sad commentary on the state of the senior military these days.


7 posted on 02/12/2005 2:59:16 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Please leave a message after the burp....)
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To: Cableguy

Unfortunately it doesn't matter. The Democrats are the party of Hillary no matter who holds the chairmanship.


8 posted on 02/12/2005 2:59:47 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

but I heard a great synopsis the other day from some Dem that the Clintons are losing influence.....since Dean is not on thier team per se and the Clintons did not have any viable candidate for DNC Chairman.....don't ya think that if they had that much power they would have fielded a more substantial candidate for that role/????


9 posted on 02/12/2005 3:02:43 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Cableguy
I feel like The Emperor in Return of the Jedi when Luke and Vader are battling to the death:

"Goooood! Goooood!"

10 posted on 02/12/2005 3:02:51 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone, I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: Cableguy
Let's crack a keg, fire up the grill, and watch it on the hi-def plasma screen. Make a party out of the the Dim Cannibalization Show. Sheeeeit, this is better than the Super Bowl. WOO-HOO! l


11 posted on 02/12/2005 3:03:00 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Wasn't he also a boyhood FOB?


12 posted on 02/12/2005 3:03:16 PM PST by drt1
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To: Cableguy

I thought the Dems were united in their quest to take power back from the evil Republicans.


13 posted on 02/12/2005 3:05:27 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I never GOT Clark--he seemed like some extremely tightly-wound desk jockey who liked to "toss a few back with the boys" once a year to prove he was a man's man. He was one of the least-interesting military commentators, and to this day I recall his prediction of "5000 US dead, minimum" if we attempted to take Baghdad, which would lead one to think he wouldn't bitch and moan about our total losses there so far in the war.

To this civilian he always seems like one of Ralph Peters's "perfumed princes".

14 posted on 02/12/2005 3:05:53 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone, I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: Cableguy
Dean vs. Clark Soros.

Clark is a Soros front.

15 posted on 02/12/2005 3:07:37 PM PST by Shermy
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To: dirtboy
Weasley Clark ping.

He seems to believe he is still, in some way, relevant...

16 posted on 02/12/2005 3:09:47 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: drt1

Brouhaha? Ha, ha, ha!
Dean to Wes: "You're lucky you have your brown paper bag!"
(Deep inside reference)


17 posted on 02/12/2005 3:10:08 PM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: Cableguy; MeekOneGOP
And in my mind, this latest ''news'' that the camps are fighting -- well, it just plain smells. Smells like something the neocon-controlled media would love to plant so they can divide and conquer the 2 guys who could really pose a threat to their plans for world domination.
(#8) (Rated 5.00/2) by Anonymous on 02/11/2005 05:40:33 PM EST
Buster

Oh No!!! We've been found out!!!

Someone pull my e-mail to Karl Rove and hide my press credentials with access to the West Wing. Send out the private e-mail list to all Freepers in deep cover, and call out spy at the Washington Post via payphone and use the duress phrase:

"Blue horseshoe puts the lotion on its skin whenever it is told."

You also better ping Jim Robinson and have him call President Bush on the Iridium STU-III phone, and tell him we need the Secret Service to round up "the usual suspects."


18 posted on 02/12/2005 3:12:59 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Cableguy

Looks like the Commies against the Socialists (if there is a difference)


19 posted on 02/12/2005 3:15:18 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: Cableguy

Well .. it was so funny today - Dean said in his speech that the dems CANNOT be known as the party who is against everything Bush [paraphrase].

Then there's Terrytoons pointing his finger at the camera and screeming about how the dems are going to stop the repubs from making any changes to SS.

So which is it dems .. you're going to act like human beings and do something good for the American people - OR YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE THE OBSTRUCTIONIST PARTY ..??


20 posted on 02/12/2005 3:17:56 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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