Islamic Science: Neil Armstrong Proved Mecca is the Center of the World (Saudi TV); 3 more(MEMRI TV)

MEMRI TV (Middle East Media Research Institute) ^ | February 13, 2005

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1/16/2005	Clip No. 545
Islamic Science: Neil Armstrong Proved Mecca is the Center of the World
The following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Abd Al-Baset Al-Sayyed of the Egyptian National Research Center. Al-Majd TV aired this interview on January 16, 2005 Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: The centrality (of Mecca) has been proven scientifically. How? When they traveled to outer space and took pictures of the earth, they saw that it is a dark, hanging sphere. The man said, "Earth is a dark hanging sphere – who hung it?" Interviewer: Who said that? Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: (Neil) Armstrong. Armstrong was basically trying to say: Allah is the one who hung it. They discovered that Earth emits radiation, and they wrote about this on the web. They left the item there for 21 days, and then they made it disappear. Interviewer: Why did they make it disappear? Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: There was intent there… Interviewer: So it may be said that this suppression of information was significant. Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: It was very significant, since…the Ka'ba (in Mecca)… They said it emits radiation. This radiation is short-wave. When they discovered this radiation, they started to zoom in, and they found that it emanates from Mecca – and, to be precise, from the Ka'ba. Interviewer: My God!! Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: It was said… Interviewer: Does this radiation have an effect? Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: They found that this radiation is infinite. When they reached Mars and began to take pictures, they found that the radiation continues beyond. They said that the wavelength known to us… or rather the shortness of the wavelength known to us… This radiation had a special characteristic: It is infinite, and I believe that the reason is that this radiation connects the (earthly) Ka'ba with the celestial Ka'ba. Imagine that you are the North Pole and I am the South Pole – in the middle there's what is called the magnetic equilibrium zone. If you place a compass there, the needle won't move. Interviewer: You mean that the pull is equal from both sides? Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: Yes, and that's why it's called zero-magnetism zone, since the magnetic force has no effect there. That's why if someone travels to Mecca or lives there, he lives longer, is healthier, and is less affected by Earth's gravity. That's why when you circle the Ka'ba, you get charged with energy. Interviewer: Allah be praised. Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: Yes, this is a fact. This is a scientific fact…   Interviewer: Because you are distant from… Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: Earth's magnetic fields have no effect on you in this case. There's a study that proves that the black basalt rocks in Mecca are the oldest rocks in the world. This is the truth. Interviewer: The oldest rocks? Yes. Has this been proved scientifically? Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: It's been scientifically proven, and the study has been published. Interviewer: They took basalt rocks from Mecca… Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: …Basalt rocks from Mecca, and investigated the places where they were formed. In the British Museum there are three pieces of the black stone (from the Ka'ba) …and they said that this rock didn't come from our solar system.

[Khashayar]

idioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots

WHO IS GONNA STOP THESE IDIOT, STUPID PEOPLE?

:-(

[GeronL]

Some of the most uninformed people on this world, like DUmmies, only dumber.

[Stoat]

idioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots

WHO IS GONNA STOP THESE IDIOT, STUPID PEOPLE?

:-(

We will, and our children will, and our good friends of our Coalition will. 

The truth will set them all free....don't be sad, we are living in glorious, magical times.  Iraq will become a grand beacon of democracy in the Middle East and will serve as the first domino in a chain that will bring sunlight to the darkness.  The great spectacle of freedom and democracy is unfolding and it will echo throughout eternity.

[Dallas59]

Wadaya expect from the 14th century?

[JimSEA]

Calypso Louie is a genius in comparison. I am totally amazed. WOW!

[Stoat]

Wadaya expect from the 14th century?
It's strange....we of the West also went through the 14th century, yet we progressed while they remained stagnant.  Perhaps it's their religion, perhaps there's something in the water, perhaps it's from having sand in your shoes all the time.  Whatever the reason, ours became the demonstrably superior culture and so it has become our responsibility to bring enlightenment to those who so desperately need it.  This is only one way that we show our humanity, one of the many things that so many in the Middle East appear to have lost.

[TrebleRebel]

Reminds me of the time a Muslim acquaintance told me that Louie Armstrong converted to Islam when he heard the voice of Mohammed while he was walking on the moon.

[Stoat]

Calypso Louie is a genius in comparison. I am totally amazed. WOW!

Isn't the level of their delusion utterly breathtaking? 

It's important to always remember that stuff like this is a reflection of the official position of, in this case, the Saudi government.  With a tightly controlled media, nothing gets out over the airwaves or in print that isn't approved and serves as an extension of Government policy.

This isn't equivalent at all to some nutcase blathering and bloviating on Art Bell's show....this is the voice of the Saudi government, and we laugh it off at our peril. 

[Stoat]

Reminds me of the time a Muslim acquaintance told me that Louie Armstrong converted to Islam when he heard the voice of Mohammed while he was walking on the moon.

That's terribly, terribly sad.  Hopefully your acquaintance has since developed a more coherent understanding of world events.

[TrebleRebel]

Not really, but he does now know the difference between an American aviation hero and a world-class jazz and blues musician.

[tkathy]

Do they mean the formerly Christian lands temporarily known as Mecca and Medina?

[Dallas59]

It's scary. They would be worse than George Orwell's 1984. Every bit of history destroyed and rewritten with this gobbelty gook.

[Eagle Eye]

I spent several months in an Islamic country and listened to their state sponsored English broadcasts daily. I was amazed as what actually came out of their mouths, things like being able to judge a man's character by the color of his eyes or shape of his nose.

Their "Holy Koran" program pretty much portrayed The Great Prophet (PBUH) as a highwayman and philanderer, although they took great pains to justify his theivery and ferocity.

This stuff doesn't shock me in the least.

[johniegrad]

Interviewer: Why did they make it disappear?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: There was intent there…

Interviewer: So it may be said that this suppression of information was significant.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. The plot thickens!!

[Stoat]

Not really, but he does now know the difference between an American aviation hero and a world-class jazz and blues musician.

It's a start I suppose.  Hopefully his learning will continue, and he is quite lucky to have a Freeper such as yourself nearby.  :-)  Think of all the similarly-incoherent Muslims who might only know Democrats....they are truly lost, with no hope of intellectual salvation.

[MindBender26]

Doctor of what?

Sounds like an MLM meeting.

[Stoat]

Do they mean the formerly Christian lands temporarily known as Mecca and Medina?

I am so happy to know that you view things in the context of the Big Picture  :-)

[Nathan Zachary]

A simple reading of the Koran will.  "Allah" (Muhammad's inner voice) wasn't the all knowing, wise little <strike>god</strike> Satan  those illiterate camel herder's think he is. He was a member of the flat earth society, and thought earth was the center of all.

 

Any Muslim who applies  rational thinking to the Koran will not be a Muslim for long, or at least admit it in public.

 

Tabari I:244 “Allah then created for the sun a chariot with 360 handholds from the luminosity of the light of the Throne and entrusted 360 of the angels inhabiting the lower heaven with the sun and its chariot, each of them gripping one of those handholds. Allah also entrusted 360 angels with the moon.”

 

So, when you look at the sun, know that there are 360 retarded angels tirelessly flapping their wings carrying the sun  around.

Tabari I:234 “Then the Prophet said:[because Allah told him] ‘For the sun and the moon, Allah created easts and wests on the two sides of the earth and the two rims of heaven. There are 180 springs in the west of black clay-this is why Allah’s word says: “He found the sun setting in a muddy spring.” [Koran 18:86] The black clay bubbles and boils like a pot when it boils furiously.’”

 

There we have it. The sun sets in a muddy pond here on earth. This is a proven FACT, which will soon be released when Hollywood releases the new movie, 'Alexander the great.(who was a Muslim ironically, and gay)

Qur’an 18:83 “They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite something of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals. So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

 

Proof! in the holy Koran!!! the ultimate word of (a brainless Islamic) god!!!!

How could mankind have been so wrong?? 

Quick! Rush out and get your prayer matt today, and join the billions who are senselessly pounding their heads on the sand 5 times a day.

Millions of Americans (idiots) have converted to Allah's undeniable word!

[Stoat]

It's scary. They would be worse than George Orwell's 1984. Every bit of history destroyed and rewritten with this gobbelty gook.

That is precisely the intent of the Islamists, as articulated by OBL himself. 

Embrace Islam or die...that was his very clear message.  And that message has been taken up by terrorists around the world.  It's a very real threat, and were he alive Orwell himself would be shaking his head, thinking 'this can't be real....it was just a book that I wrote!'

[tet68]

Interviewer: They took basalt rocks from Mecca…

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: …Basalt rocks from Mecca, and investigated the places where they were formed.

In the British Museum there are three pieces of the black stone (from the Ka'ba) …and they said that this rock didn't come from our solar system.


One want's to ask, just how much is left of the Ka'ba if
infidels keep taking pieces of it?

[Stoat]

I spent several months in an Islamic country and listened to their state sponsored English broadcasts daily. I was amazed as what actually came out of their mouths, things like being able to judge a man's character by the color of his eyes or shape of his nose.

Their "Holy Koran" program pretty much portrayed The Great Prophet (PBUH) as a highwayman and philanderer, although they took great pains to justify his theivery and ferocity.

This stuff doesn't shock me in the least.

Fortunately for our fellow Freepers, you are here to set them right when they 'pooh-pooh' this sort of thing and claim that it's taken out of context and isn't representative of the Government's position.  Most people who have lived out their lives in the West have absolutely no idea how completely different life in the Middle East and in Islamic countries is....the Democratic party is full of such people who refuse to take these threats seriously.

[Stoat]

Interviewer: Why did they make it disappear?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: There was intent there…

Interviewer: So it may be said that this suppression of information was significant.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. The plot thickens!!

Yes, everything is express in terms of grand, sneaky plots, i.e. Israel's 'zionist' conspiracies, America's singleminded desire for oil, etc. etc. 

When people are breathtakingly ignorant, they will oftentimes explain things that they don't understand in terms of great conspiracies, magic, etc.

Interviewer: Why did they make it disappear?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: There was intent there…

Interviewer: So it may be said that this suppression of information was significant.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. The plot thickens!!

[Nathan Zachary]

Believe me, if they allowed that little pile of rocks (the house of a great god ironicly) to be inspected, they will find that they don't come from where they claim they do. They are just local rocks piled up into an alter, the only thing available in a desert to build anything out of.

I suspect those 3 peaces of black stone (the Allah rock god) are his dayghters, Al-Uza, Alat, and Manat. Chips of the old block.

[TADSLOS]

The only thing that Mecca should be the center of is a bullseye.

[chief_bigfoot]

"It was very significant, since…the Ka'ba (in Mecca)… They said it emits radiation."

Not yet, but it can be arranged.....it'll be a lot hotter too...

[Stoat]

One want's to ask, just how much is left of the Ka'ba if
infidels keep taking pieces of it?

I would imagine that the response would be along the lines of 'because the rock is holy, it continuously regenerates itself if it has been blasphemed'

Insane conspiracy theorists always have a mystical answer for every hole in their theories.

[Stoat]

The only thing that Mecca should be the center of is a bullseye.

You won't get any arguments from me.  I'm rather tired of the Islamic world continually failing to keep it's house in order. 

[Stoat]

Doctor of what?

Sounds like an MLM meeting.

I have no doubt that he is a proud holder of a doctorate in "Islamic Sciences" or some other silliness.

Being from Washington State, I am terribly embarrassed of the fact that (among other things) the University of Washington became the first institution on the planet to offer degrees in 'women's studies'.

I think that they have homosexual-related 'degrees' also.

Higher education is quite often far from being either.

[Stoat]

"It was very significant, since…the Ka'ba (in Mecca)… They said it emits radiation."

Not yet, but it can be arranged.....it'll be a lot hotter too...

Hopefully the Islamic world will VERY quickly experience an Enlightenment of their own, or we will be forced to bestow it upon them.

[samtheman]

Wadaya expect from the 14th century?

14th century? What are you saying? That's blasphemy. The 14th century was a time of great heresy. No, the great truths of Islamic Science are from a purer, more perfect age: the 7th century.

[samtheman]

Thanks for the transcript.

[Berosus]

And this is from the same country where in the 1960s, the religious leader issued a fatwa claiming that the world is flat. I wonder if they have tried to explain/justify that since?

I also understand that Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, better known as "Baghdad Bob," found employment as a TV news anchor in Abu Dhabi last year. Too bad we can't blame this on him.

[Stoat]

Thanks for the transcript.

You're quite welcome  :-)   I hope, however, that you might still take a moment to look at the video clips as well, because the facial expressions, mannerisms and tonal inflections of the broadcasts add immeasurably to the experience.  They tend to drive home the fact that this sort of drivel is absolutely central to their entire culture and being.

And don't overlook the other three clips and transcripts....there's a basket of gems from MEMRI today

:-)

[InfraRed]

One want's to ask, just how much is left of the Ka'ba if infidels keep taking pieces of it?

Just imagine what this has done to the magnetic equilibrium! Because of infidels, our planet is now radiating in all sorts of weird directions. This is certain to bring the wrath of allah (may neutrons be upon him). It's just a matter of time before kitchens around the world suddenly experience swarms of unbound refrigerator icons.

The infidels of the world should immediately begin efforts to restore mecca to normal radiation levels.

[angkor]

A leading Pakistani nuclear scientist who was questioned by the Pakistani government last week concerning his ties to the Taliban is known as a proponent of "Islamic science," a weird hybrid of scientific terminology and Islamic lore.

Sultan Bashiruddin Mehmood is a pioneer in the development of nuclear technology in Pakistan. But in 1980, as a senior director of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission, he "recommended that djinns [or genies], being fiery creatures, ought to be tapped as a free source of energy. By this means, a final solution to Pakistan's energy problems would be found."

http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/10/102901.html

[Cronos]

When they discovered this radiation, they started to zoom in, and they found that it emanates from Mecca – and, to be precise, from the Ka'ba.

Hmmmm... What actually happened is that Armstrong saw into the future, a time AFTER Mecca had been nuked!

[Cronos]

Say, aren't you Persian? I think its one of the great tragedies of the world that one of the noblest civilisations -- the Persian -- is under the yoke of these camel traders.

Secondly -- doesn't the Koran say that actually the earth is flat?

[Cronos]

Reminds me of the time a Muslim acquaintance told me that Louie Armstrong converted to Islam when he heard the voice of Mohammed while he was walking on the moon.

Typically slammie lies, like their lies about their numbers and their converts

[samtheman]

I will.

This whole thing of rock-worship that these idiots are into makes me think again of something I've posted before on FR, that we should get the word out to the Religion of Peace that there exists a certain level of terrorist violence (the exact definition of that level purposely left unstated) that once committed will bring about the following retaliation: turning the "black stone" and all the ground around it, for a radius of 50 miles, into a solid sheet of radioactive glass.

[Cronos]

Do they mean the formerly Christian lands temporarily known as Mecca and Medina?

They were never Christian. THey were pagan with a large Jewish minority. They COULD have become Christian -- the Christian Ethiopian Empire which encompassed Yemen almost conquered Mecca about a century before Mo.

[Stoat]

And this is from the same country where in the 1960s, the religious leader issued a fatwa claiming that the world is flat. I wonder if they have tried to explain/justify that since?
I have not noticed any evidence of Islamic leaders ever acknowledging any error whatsoever, so I am guessing that this is not an issue for them.  Perhaps they are still teaching that the world is flat, or perhaps they may suggest that the flat-earth proclamation was 'misinterpreted' and was meant to convey a message pertaining to 'spiritual flatness".  Gee, I'm pretty good....maybe I could be a mullah? :-)

Slight problem....I believe in the true God, respect women with all of my heart, love scientific advancement and modern progression, and I simply don't care to interrupt my work several times every single freaking day to kneel down and beat my head against the ground   :-) 

I also understand that Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, better known as "Baghdad Bob," found employment as a TV news anchor in Abu Dhabi last year. Too bad we can't blame this on him.

CNN should offer him a gig....he would fit right in   :-)

[Cronos]

In the British Museum there are three pieces of the black stone (from the Ka'ba) …and they said that this rock didn't come from our solar system.

Well, firstly, that's a lie -- the British Museum wouldn't have any chips off the stone there -- if they did, there would be millions of howling jihadis after them. Secondly, how the ***** would they know if it came from outside the solar system? Thirdly -- even if it WAS from outside the solar system, big ********, that don't mean a thing -- there are gazillions of objects whizzing about space from every which way!

[Stoat]

A leading Pakistani nuclear scientist who was questioned by the Pakistani government last week concerning his ties to the Taliban is known as a proponent of "Islamic science," a weird hybrid of scientific terminology and Islamic lore.

Sultan Bashiruddin Mehmood is a pioneer in the development of nuclear technology in Pakistan. But in 1980, as a senior director of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission, he "recommended that djinns [or genies], being fiery creatures, ought to be tapped as a free source of energy. By this means, a final solution to Pakistan's energy problems would be found."

http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/10/102901.html

Just when I thought that things couldn't become even more insane, they have!

I love the internet!  hehehe!

The Dems would LOVE this....it would solve the whole energy situation and provide an alternative to new drilling in Alaska   :-)

[Stoat]

When they discovered this radiation, they started to zoom in, and they found that it emanates from Mecca – and, to be precise, from the Ka'ba.

Hmmmm... What actually happened is that Armstrong saw into the future, a time AFTER Mecca had been nuked!

[Rastus]

And I think to myself
Mecca's the center of the world
Ooooh, yassssssss!

[IamConservative]

Interesting how many times this ass hat has to claim; "It is the truth."

Lying is part of the culture. One of many endearing qualities.

[Stoat]

This whole thing of rock-worship that these idiots are into makes me think again of something I've posted before on FR, that we should get the word out to the Religion of Peace that there exists a certain level of terrorist violence (the exact definition of that level purposely left unstated) that once committed will bring about the following retaliation: turning the "black stone" and all the ground around it, for a radius of 50 miles, into a solid sheet of radioactive glass.

Nicely stated, and I sincerely hope that the House of Saud doesn't discount this as a very real possibility.

We in the United States are (with the exception of the Dems) the nicest folks you might care to meet, but everybody has their breaking point, and it's not a good idea to keep pushing on us....as long as we have an honorable Administration, we WILL push back.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Islamic science???????