Now the personal attacks start. I question the conspiracy, and now I am the target. I see how things work. Nice, really.
I do not know what happened that night. I refuse to be lured into believing that 200 to 300+ people are directly involved in some coverup to protect the 'Toon. I have strong beliefs that there are righteous, upstanding Americans that would not put up with perpetuating some ruse for no reason other than cover for a politician.
All I can say about the radar is that the frequency and type used by civilian radar is prone to false returns, caused by birds, weather, and any number of things. It does not make a good witness here.
The years have gone by and nobody has come forward with real evidence that there was a conspiracy, and until there is, I cannot buy into the notion that there is. We all know that there are ways of seeing to it that a video of this incident (IF one existed) would come to light. What are they waiting for? All we get are third party accounts of what they saw, and MIB showing up in studios and confiscating stuff. I am not sure that a badge is enough to get into a video production studio, much less make off with a video tape. In a previous life I had the occasion to go to one, and the secrity there was tight, way before security was hip. Even when property is seized, there is a receipt of what was taken, signed by the Agent in charge.
Don't hate me because I question your belief in this. Early on, there was a lot of bad information being passed around as fact. I had to personally clear up some of it, and it was not easy. Check out the Alamo Girl postings on this matter.
E.O. # 13039
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release March 12, 1997
EXECUTIVE ORDER
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EXCLUSION OF THE NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE DEVELOPMENT GROUP
FROM THE FEDERAL LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS PROGRAM
By the authority vested in me as President by the
Constitution and the laws of the United States of America,
including section 7103(b)(1) of title 5 of the United States
Code, and having determined that the Naval Special Warfare
Development Group has as a primary function intelligence,
counter-intelligence, investigative, or national security
work and that the provisions of Chapter 71 of title 5 of the
United States Code cannot be applied to this organization in
a manner consistent with national security requirements and
considerations, Executive Order 12171 of November 19, 1979,
as amended, is further amended by adding the following at the
end of section 1-205:
"(i) Naval Special Warfare Development Group."
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
March 11, 1997.
I thank posters on this thread, on both sides of the issue at hand.
Mr. Quarterpanel is correct, as well, that posters should keep in mind to stick to attacking THE ISSUE, instead of the POSTER.
Sometimes, I fall into that trap myself, but I try to make amends to the poster.
WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. The TRUTH.
Just remember that without some physical evidence, or sworn testimony, YOUR truth, HIS truth, MY truth, are all on equal ground.
So far, the best that can be said is that something unusual occurred, and all evidence points to external forces, not airframe component failure.
And the FBI went to a lot of trouble to keep the truth hidden.
Sorry if you took this as a personal attack (and I can see how you might).
I was just being sarcastic. I'm sure you know that, "There's not a shred of evidence," is one of the Commodities Scam Queen's favorite lines; and of course it was never true when she said it so far as I can recall. She really meant, "There's a lot of evidence but I refuse to acknowledge it."
In the case of TWA 800, would you agree that the high volume of consistent eyewitness reports collected by law enforcement, including several from experienced observers, constitutes evidence?
I would agree with your contention that there is quite a bit of disinformation around about TWA 800. Unfortunately quite a bit has been proffered by the government. (e.g. the plane soared up after it was stricken.) I believe that this disinformation is also, in its own way, a sort of evidence.
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