Posted on 02/15/2005 3:51:01 AM PST by AliVeritas
ONE OF LIBERALS' chief motivations these days is fear of the religious right. Ask people on the left to explain their loathing of President Bush or the Republican party, and the answer often comes around to Jerry Falwell, evangelicals, theocracy, and so on. The left's fear of conservative Christians is fed by a steady stream of news stories. Some are accurate: religious conservatives oppose gay marriage. Some are fanciful: Sponge Bob Square Pants has been accused of being a homosexual. And some are simply false.
The left's most recent salvo against the religious right was launched by an obscure online environmentalist journal called Grist. In October of last year, Grist published an article titled "The Godly Must Be Crazy," the thesis of which was that conservative Christians are deliberately bent on despoiling the environment:
Many Christian fundamentalists feel that concern for the future of our planet is irrelevant, because it has no future. They believe we are living in the End Time, when the son of God will return, the righteous will enter heaven, and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire. They may also believe, along with millions of other Christian fundamentalists, that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed--even hastened--as a sign of the coming Apocalypse.
We are not talking about a handful of fringe lawmakers who hold or are beholden to these beliefs. The 231 legislators (all but five of them Republicans) who received an average 80 percent approval rating or higher from the leading religious-right organizations make up more than 40 percent of the U.S. Congress.
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This article points out (as you do) the REAL enemy here - and it is the lies perpetuated by the Left. Such lies are intended to demonize and set up hatred toward Christians....paving the way for persecution. Since we don't war against flesh and blood, we must all recognize who is behind such lies...the father of lies himself.
This is the crux of the matter,and to me, the only matter.
As far as Christians not caring about the "environment", I'm a Christian who has many Christian friends in my life, and everyone of them are true conservationists, not "environmentalists".
FMCDH(BITS)
You have posted quite a few articles since you joined FR. However, you don't seem to be open to give your own opinion on anything. I wonder, why don't you ever really say anything?
And can you please tell us why you chose the quite symbolic screen name "Aliveritas"? C'mon, let's hear from you. Don't be shy.
"Ali was the first of the 12 infallible Imams (leaders) appointed by the Prophet, on Allahs instructions, to succeed him to lead the Muslims."
"Veritas" = truth (Latin)
Ditto.
Exactly right. God said Adam was to have dominion over all the earth, including the part outside the Garden that hadn't yet been "subdued."
So glad you asked that question. I'll not hold my breath for an answer, however.....
"...extremely fundamentalist types who figure it's not worth sending their kids to college..."
There is probably the same percentage of those types on the right as there are Howard Dean types on the left.
Aberrations - that's all.
Exactly. This isn't as half-cocked as some here at FR imagine, based on my experiences.
I've seen Gen 1:26 (And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.) used to justify opposition by Christian conservatives to environmentalism.
The whole concept of predestination leads directly to that kind of nihilism. Belief in the Rapture is incompatible with human life - it would fit better as part of certain fashionable creed that leads young men to fly jets into skyscrapers. I'm amazed at these gigantic posts on FR of articles by pseudo-philosophers whose arguments boil down to: "Lay down and die - it doesn't make any difference, anyway."
That said, the Left is blowing this issue way out of proportion yet again. They were making the exact same charges against James Watt and the Reagan Administration, twenty years ago.
If they want to discuss religion then maybe we can chat about the possiblity of a connection between "The Party of Lies" and "The Father of Lies". If they weren't delusional paranoids before, a discussion along those lines ought to put them right over the top.
"I've actually come across extremely fundamentalist types who figure it's not worth sending their kids to college because Jesus will come before the kids can graduate. It doesn't take much to extrapolate this attitude to a kind of nihilism which sees any planning for the future to be a fruitless exercise."
Yep, and it is Written that GOD will send some strong delusions that they should believe a lie:
Pretty strong medicine.
Interesting we are also told to prepare for "WAR" -- For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Got to wonder how one will stand and oppose if one is not around to stand?
He won't die...he will receive a fatal head wound, but will miraculously recover if he is truly Mabus. And the drum beats for his assassination have begun, he has already survived one attempt. Not a believer in Nostradamus, just have a morbid curiosity on the subject : )
You might take a look at the No True Scotsman fallacy:
"In particular, members of religious faiths are often charged with employing this fallacy when they say that no true Christian would do something. The term "Christian" is used by such a widely disparate set of people that it has very little meaning when it comes to behaviour."
Regardless of the strains of Islam, it's all idolatry.
I'm sure they feel the same about Christians.
Well, at least they gave it a shot. I found discussing philosophy was often enough to get a college girl to ... er ... open up.
The doctrine of election does not negate the duty/privilege/mandate to serve God and others in this life.
Of course they do. And both cannot be right. I'll stick with the One I can know personally - rather than a distant, capricious, and arbitrary god.
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