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To: AliVeritas

This article represents the schizophrenia of the secular Left.

I reject the notion of that the Church is to be "raptured" away. It is not found in Scripture nor did any segment of the Church embrace or teach that as a doctrine until the Irvingites in Scotland in the early/mid-19th Century.

I fall into the Reconstructionist-Postmillennial camp that embraces the Biblical view that Christians are to be salt and light in our respective cultures; that all nations are to be discipled to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior; as Prophet, Priest and King.

The secularists schizophrenia is just this: whether Christians are advocating the escapist doctrine of the rapture and the ceding of culture to the humanists; or are promoting God's Law as the standard for nations and bringing all spheres of life under the dominion of Jesus Christ - family, state, church, education, arts, environment, etc. ---- either position infuriates the secularists because of their guilty knowledge of God. They don't want any reminder they are accountable to God - whether by law/sanctions in this life or after the tribulation of the millenarians.

Secularists don't want Christians uninvolved in society; yet they don't want them involved or influencing society - they don't want them period.

http://www.americanvision.org/

http://www.chalcedon.edu/

http://www.NatReformAssn.org/

http://www.cmfnow.com/

http://www.credenda.org/

http://forerunner.com/forerunner/forerunner.html

http://www.postmillennialism.com/main.html


7 posted on 02/15/2005 4:29:36 AM PST by PresbyRev (All truth is God's truth: post tenebras, Lux!)
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To: PresbyRev

You have some links to pretty weird websites. To offer $5000 to anyone who can prove the Bible condemns gay marriage could only come from someone who has never read Romans 1. That such a one could really call themselves a Christian would be pretty difficult.


12 posted on 02/15/2005 4:42:11 AM PST by wastoute
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To: PresbyRev

Ah, a fellow postmillenialist!


20 posted on 02/15/2005 4:58:33 AM PST by ovrtaxt (McClellan: Do away with daily press briefings! Come straight to the New Media!)
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To: PresbyRev
Various positions on end times are nonessentials of the Christian faith, and certainly not worth dividing over. No believer, regardless of their position on the matter, should disregard that which God has given us.

This article points out (as you do) the REAL enemy here - and it is the lies perpetuated by the Left. Such lies are intended to demonize and set up hatred toward Christians....paving the way for persecution. Since we don't war against flesh and blood, we must all recognize who is behind such lies...the father of lies himself.

21 posted on 02/15/2005 5:06:05 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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