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Media lynch mob tries to out-blog the bloggers (and fails miserably)
JWR ^ | 2-15-05 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 02/15/2005 5:10:24 AM PST by FlyLow

Real fear is mixing with snarky disdain in the "mainstream" media's attitude toward web loggers in the wake of the resignation last Friday of Eason Jordan as CNN's top news executive.

"Bloggers as News Media Trophy Hunters," said the headline in the New York Times Monday, the first time many of the newspaper's readers were made aware of a controversy which had been roiling for nearly two weeks.

"The New York Times media beat reporters got beaten badly on the Eason Jordan story — by (gasp!) web logs and cable news — and so how do they react? By catching their readers up on what they missed? Of course not. They react by lashing out at web logs," said Jeff Jarvis, whose views were misrepresented in the Times' story.

Web loggers who criticized Jordan are "sons of Sen. McCarthy," said Bertrand Pecquerie, director of the World Editors Forum. "It is very worrying to see this marriage between self-proclaimed citizens' media and mainstream journalists' scalp hunters," he said.

"The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail," said Steve Lovelady, who edits the web site of the Columbia Journalism Review. For those of you unfamiliar with the controversy — that is to say, for those of you who get your news from the "mainstream" media — in a panel discussion at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland Jan. 27, Jordan said the U.S. military was deliberately killing journalists in Iraq. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass), a fellow panelist, demanded proof, which Jordan couldn't supply.

Miami businessman Rony Abovitz, who was in attendance, reported on what Jordan said in his web log. This was read by big foot bloggers Hugh Hewitt, Ed Morrissey (Captains Quarters), Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) and the gang at Power Line, who expressed outrage.

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1 posted on 02/15/2005 5:10:25 AM PST by FlyLow
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To: FlyLow

They hurl insults because they are afraid.

If they weren't, they would speak intelligently on the subject instead of acting like toddlers who missed their naps.

And they should be afraid. They are driving themselves out of business with their unprofessionalism.

Good riddance.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 5:14:46 AM PST by Imal (Saluting SPC Taylor Burk, a genuine hero and true American. d. 1/26/2005)
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To: FlyLow
"The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail," said Steve Lovelady ... "

Shucks ... were that true there would be a lot fewer "enemies of the state" around.

Hmmmmm ... food for thought though. Thanks. ;)

3 posted on 02/15/2005 5:15:01 AM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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To: FlyLow
...The New York Times media beat reporters got beaten badly on the Eason Jordan story...

Got beaten. Snort. They were never in the race. The MSM distinguishes itself, so to speak, not only by the way it slants what it puts out, but also by what it refuses to cover. And in the age of the Internet, they can no longer get away with that stratagem, either.

The Old Media is dead. Long live the New Media.

4 posted on 02/15/2005 5:16:31 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: FlyLow

More dims that just don't get it


5 posted on 02/15/2005 5:16:47 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: FlyLow
For us, the "people's right to know"— which we invoke in self-righteous tones when we're prying into the private lives of people who are not journalists — takes a back seat to protecting the reputations of members of our club.

Pretty good insight.

6 posted on 02/15/2005 5:16:52 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: FlyLow

What's that sound I hear? The empty vacuum of irrelevance? This is getting fun to watch!


7 posted on 02/15/2005 5:18:29 AM PST by ovrtaxt (McClellan: Do away with daily press briefings! Come straight to the New Media!)
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To: FlyLow
Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass), a fellow panelist, demanded proof

By the way, kudos to Barney Frank for... ummm... not swallowing everything that ... ummm... some guy puts in front of him.

8 posted on 02/15/2005 5:18:43 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: FlyLow

Freedom of the press is not dead in America, but it has taken a mortal injury when the ouster of Talon news from the White House press corpse. The message from the Stone Age Press is that unless you are a Propaganda Arm of the DimRat Party you are not a reporter. Outside of Fox News, the herd mentality of DNCBS is completely opposite of the average American. This is why Gannon’s question was so pointed and relevant for today. How in the world can the President get his message to the world if the people who deliver that message disagree with it with obvious hatred??

The Stone Age Press stretching from the Old York Times to ABDNC, lost the last election every bit as much as Yaaawn Kerry. They were openly campaigning for him with every trick from phony polls to planted stories to forged documents. Wonder where all those “investigative” reporters are on themselves?? The average reporter from the 5th estate is not only a Democrat voter but a liberal activist. These people hate GW and America as much as their number one standard bearer Michael Mooreon. How can people so out of touch with America’s values and the goodness she represents, tell the world what America stands for??

Mr Gannon actually asked one of the most important questions in the American Media. As it wallows in the quagmire of the Tarpits of histoir, how can we get the truth to the American people? The success of Fox Rox, Talk Radio and Modern Media, how can the press be so blind? In reality they are a herd mentality and they believe in the safety of the herd. Polls have shown that nearly 90% of the news spewers are extreme Commucrats, and report for each others approval and believe America still thinks the way they do. What they don’t realize is that to keep the herd healthy, there must be a thinning as well as a strengthening of the herd or you end up with Rather old tired sickly Dinosaurs. That is who we have now reporting in a digital world with hammers & chisels.

Fox Rox News appears to be Right leaning since it is not an extreme Left-wing mouthpiece. To report middle of the road is so far removed from ABDNCBS that they are Right by comparison. Heck, Pravda is to the Right of the Samestream Press. For one not to attack the President or Republicans 24/7 they are so far outside of Lamestream Group think that they appear opposite to the rest of the news filters. This is why they are enjoying skyrocketing ratings and hated by the herd. We the consumers are not the uneducated bumpkins they have portrayed us for the past 20 years. Most Americans have access to the same direct news feeds that they have which allows us to compare their service both in quality and accuracy. The News business is the only service in the Country that continually insults over 50% of it’s customers.

How the Stone Agers do not cast the vote in Iraq as one of the great achievements in the history of the World is proof enough to their false reality. The fact that a Country would invade another Country and overthrew a mad dictator, not to own that Country and it’s wealth; but to free an enslaved people. Saddamn kept his slaves not with chains but fear and torture. The only reporters that got it right were the ones who were actually at the polling places. From the SAP in their cushy desks at the hotel or NY studios, it suddenly was not that important. Everything is filtered through their DNC activism and hatred for W and America. The continual comparisons to Vietnam is more a stretch than Lola Pelosi’s mask.

So Gannon’s question is: How can this President work with a press that is out of touch with reality and America?? This is the question of the 21st century. How can any company work without good information? Information is the bedrock of any business or organization and critical for a Free Country. Just as you would dump any accountant that gives you faulty information about your business, you should be able to fire or replace a herd that is lying about this Country. Rather the herd eliminates the messenger describing the Dinosaurs in the Tarpit.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Winning Troops


9 posted on 02/15/2005 5:19:41 AM PST by bray (Iraq Freed Politically and Pray it will be Freed Spiritually)
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To: FlyLow

NYT 2005

I walked into the news room, sat down at my typewriter, picked up the phone and lit a Camel.

Just then the guy at the copy desk turns to me and says, "Hey, Bud, ya ever heard of the Internet?"

"The Internet," I says. "What's that?"


10 posted on 02/15/2005 5:21:08 AM PST by cloud8
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To: FlyLow
One would think that since MemoGate they would have a little respect for their competition. From now on, the MSM and the public Left must tread lightly.
11 posted on 02/15/2005 5:21:29 AM PST by Red Badger (I call her GODZILLARY because she went to NYC and made her nest there, too.........)
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To: FlyLow
I love the smell of fear from the LSM idiots. Get used to it, lowlifes; we're out for all your scalps and will take them if presented the opportunity.

Bloggers, 3 (Raines, Rather-Blather, Eason)

LSM, 0.

12 posted on 02/15/2005 5:22:21 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Izzy Dunne

Giggles aside, I suspect ol' Barney was salivating while asking for the "goods" on the US military.....


13 posted on 02/15/2005 5:22:51 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: bray
...the White House press corpse

WELL SAID!

14 posted on 02/15/2005 5:22:58 AM PST by Red Badger (I call her GODZILLARY because she went to NYC and made her nest there, too.........)
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To: Howlin

Did you see that Jordan says he resigned "before he could be unfairly judged" or some such nonsense? The justification for the lies never ends.....


15 posted on 02/15/2005 5:24:22 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Gee, if Jordan was so worried about being fairly judged, one wonders why CNN didn't see to it that the videotape was released...


16 posted on 02/15/2005 5:25:48 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: FlyLow

"The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail," said Steve Lovelady, who edits the web site of the Columbia Journalism Review."

Nice to know that America's "media watchdogs" have such a high opinion of those they claim to be protecting.


17 posted on 02/15/2005 5:26:18 AM PST by dsc
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To: bray
The continual comparisons [of Iraq] to Vietnam is more a stretch than Lola Pelosi’s mask.

Iraq is like Vietnam from the point-of-view of the MSM--they're trying like hell to sway public opinion against the war. IOW, it's the MSM that's stuck in the '60s. They're the Al Bundy's of the country--reliving their "glory days" while the real world crumbles around them.

18 posted on 02/15/2005 5:27:22 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: FlyLow

""The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail," said Steve Lovelady, who edits the web site of the Columbia Journalism Review."...

Now this is funny. I am amazed by people like the esteemed (in his mind, at least) Steve Lovelady, Columbia Journalism Review, who take themselves so seriously. In case anyone here is unclear, "journalism", as practiced today, is the realm of the "C" student. It is not a hard science, it is not even sociology, it is a farce. Today's "journalist" is no more of a writer or thinker than most anyone who posts up here on FreeRepublic. I'll match him up against the legendary "IronJack" or "JohnHuang2" any day of the week; there are many others who turn a deft phrase.

Just because Mr. Lovelady edits a publication with the name "Columbia" attached to it does not mean he is more qualified to do so than you or me. The main "qualification" he likely has for his post is a left-wing outlook and democrat voting record. That's it. These people are as phony as the democrats they revere - kerry, the clintons, the kennedys, and that ilk, and are no smarter. Which, come to think of it, is not that big a stretch anyway in the case of kerry, et al.

I am curious as to what Mr. Lovelady would say to me, among other things holder of a PhD in a hard science. Am I a "moron"? I know I am a better thinker and writer than the esteemed one, and certainly because of FreeRepublic and other sites, I know far more about what is really going on in the world than some clown in New York.

Get off it, Mr. Lovelady, you and your kind are history!


19 posted on 02/15/2005 5:27:51 AM PST by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: FlyLow

This is actually quite funny.

The ultimate goal of most reporters for the last 30 years has been to be a new Woodward or Bernstein. Scalp hunters (with liberal politicians as a protected species) is what they are or would like to be.

It must really smart to see your enemies succeeding at the dream you have failed to achieve.


20 posted on 02/15/2005 5:29:20 AM PST by Restorer
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To: FlyLow
"The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail," said Steve Lovelady, who edits the web site of the Columbia Journalism Review

Buh bye!

21 posted on 02/15/2005 5:29:58 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: FlyLow

We feel about bloggers the way Custer must have felt when he charged that village at the Little Big Horn, and discovered it was much, much bigger than he'd imagined it to be. The bloggers' wigwam is large, and growing. There is plenty of room on the lodgepole for more scalps.


hehehe You gotta love this man's sense of humor

*sharpens his scalping knife*


22 posted on 02/15/2005 5:30:45 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (What are you? Lion or Lamb?)
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To: Imal

Right. It's been pretty obvious for some years that
newspaper reporters have either missed much in their
Journalism 101 classes...or...their instructors were
as clueless as they are on how to research info.

Newspaper publishers are living in the past and have
no basis for communicating with their own hirees other
than laying down the law as to what will be published
and what won't; what spin will prevail as the norm for
the organ.

Bloggers have the advantage of keen interest in the
topic at hand and will spend hours researching/tracking
the original threads which set the piece going. Its
just that simple.


23 posted on 02/15/2005 5:32:00 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: FlyLow
"The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail," said Steve Lovelady, who edits the web site of the Columbia Journalism Review."...

...just a lonely little voice, crying in the dark, so lost, so lonely.....

24 posted on 02/15/2005 5:33:24 AM PST by Al Gator
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To: FlyLow
"The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail," said Steve Lovelady, who edits the web site of the Columbia Journalism Review.

If the salivating morons have you spewing spittle in panic, what does that make you?

What's a Steve Lovelady, anyway? Any relation to Bruce Lovelace?

25 posted on 02/15/2005 5:34:45 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: FlyLow
Real fear is mixing with snarky disdain in the "mainstream" media's attitude toward web loggers

That's because the "mainstream" media has a snarky disdain for boring old history and facts and wants to control events, not report on them.

26 posted on 02/15/2005 5:35:33 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: shezza

Ping-a-ling-a-ling..... Good Morning!!


27 posted on 02/15/2005 5:37:48 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV
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To: FlyLow
"We the people..." was one of the greatest concepts ever devised by some of the most brilliant minds to inhabit planet earth.

"We" are now a reality, and "we" are in the midst of fabulous changes.

28 posted on 02/15/2005 5:38:02 AM PST by PGalt
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To: astounded

I would argue that "Journalizm" has NEVER been a profession, that these people are glorified reporters and news-readers, and that they need to stick with the FACTS and leave the OPINIONS to others. Or face consequences when they step over the line into sedition and treason.


29 posted on 02/15/2005 5:38:44 AM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: FlyLow

Beckel was having a hissy fit last night. What the heck you can't have all that freedom of speech.


30 posted on 02/15/2005 5:38:58 AM PST by mware
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To: FlyLow
New York Slimes will soon be ancient history.

Hey Mom! What is the New York Slime?

Oh Son! That was once a nice media RAG found in New York City.

Just a another form of biased media that Common Sense Americans rejected.
However, there persistence in not reporting the truth made them go out of existence.

Why do you ask my young son?

My Sixth grade school teacher Mrs Hot Bottoms told us during our field trip to the motel 6 that those nasty old Web Logger's drove them out of business.
31 posted on 02/15/2005 5:39:41 AM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: OKIEDOC

I think the conservatives should take over CBS. They're vulnerable. If only I knew how...


32 posted on 02/15/2005 5:42:26 AM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

" love the smell of fear from the LSM idiots. Get used to it, lowlifes; we're out for all your scalps and will take them if presented the opportunity.
Bloggers, 3 (Raines, Rather-Blather, Eason)

LSM, 0."

Oh come now. You mean you are not giving one to the LSM for headlining Abu Gharib for 28 straight days? /sarcasm off


33 posted on 02/15/2005 5:47:05 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: FlyLow
This fits..


34 posted on 02/15/2005 5:48:42 AM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: ichabod1

ha ha ha

you gotta love this...here is the web summary

he lied
we caught him
its our fault

is that it? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH



hey how about , oh, i dont know..like soemthign you havent done for a long time...like...tell the truth..maybe? there is an original idea....


35 posted on 02/15/2005 5:49:22 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!! HUH)
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To: Al Gator
...just a lonely little voice, crying in the dark, so lost, so lonely.....

I'm so ronery, so ronery, sitting on my rittle throne-- Team America

36 posted on 02/15/2005 5:51:31 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FlyLow
"The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail,"

Dang it! I just slobbered all over myself.
37 posted on 02/15/2005 5:56:08 AM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party Divide and conquer)
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To: Grendel9

The colleges teach "activist journalism" from textbooks. They make, break, and coerce these Bolsheviks from the first day of class. None of us would be able to stand the coercion, the bias, the worldview, and the obnoxiousness of the assignments, the books, and the professors.

Only a true believing left wing fascist can emerge from the journalism programs.


38 posted on 02/15/2005 5:58:16 AM PST by Luke21
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To: mewzilla

Yep. Oh well, Jordan should be happy. Now he can pursue his activism without the constraints of the title "journalist." However, I'm guessing Sharon will drop him like a stone, now that he is no longer a "CNN executive."


39 posted on 02/15/2005 6:02:39 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Izzy Dunne
Your a comedian. Ever thought about hosting the academy awards?
40 posted on 02/15/2005 6:06:13 AM PST by BBell
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To: Imal

The MSM mediots are shocked to discover they are not universally loved and adored.

What a bunch of petulant children. They know they have been caught lying and are not trying to squirm their way out of their lies.


41 posted on 02/15/2005 6:07:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ovrtaxt
"What's that sound I hear? The empty vacuum of irrelevance? "

hah ha

Yes, that giant sucking sound.

42 posted on 02/15/2005 6:07:15 AM PST by Fido969
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To: FlyLow

The MSM does not have a lock on the opinion market. Free speech will be the end of the MSM.

"We determine what is news and what is not." - Dan Rather


43 posted on 02/15/2005 6:07:46 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: FlyLow
"Bloggers as News Media Trophy Hunters"

It's not as if they are making it difficult. The trophies are there for the taking. They have provided us with a target rich environment.

44 posted on 02/15/2005 6:08:05 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The New England Patriots. 2005 World Football Champions. Again.)
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To: Restorer

The MSM can't handle public REACTION and critique of their story. For too long the MS thought reaction to the limited stories they covered where kooky old retirees who write letters to the newspapers.

I think the MSM was shocked to discover the MAJORITY of the nation is conservatie and now the MAJORITY OF POLITICAL NEWS CONSUMERS are conservative too!


45 posted on 02/15/2005 6:12:31 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"Slobbering morons" ping! I read your post yesterday with the letters you wrote to the Columbia Journalism Review - great job!. I thought you'd appreciate this one...
46 posted on 02/15/2005 6:14:39 AM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: longtermmemmory

It's worse than that.

They believe the news comes into existence when they report it, and that it is news BECAUSE they report it.

That's why bloggers bother them so much. They have caused the MSM to lose control of what is news. And that was about 90% of their power.

It is very difficult for those who thrived in a limited-access system to compete in a free market.


47 posted on 02/15/2005 6:15:21 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I bet the voices which are screaching loudest have their own skeletons to hide.

Imagine how bad it must have been for CNN to fire one of their own. One of their own with a long history of left wing favortism. The bosses must not have only seen the tape, they must know of more comments which would further reduce CNN.


48 posted on 02/15/2005 6:18:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Luke21
The colleges teach "activist journalism" from textbooks. They make, break, and coerce these Bolsheviks from the first day of class. None of us would be able to stand the coercion, the bias, the worldview, and the obnoxiousness of the assignments, the books, and the professors. Only a true believing left wing fascist can emerge from the journalism programs.

Oh so true and that includes the so called Sports Journalists who are as liberal as the rest

And that is why when you see Conservative Editorial writers sydicated columnists etc etc they come from a different background and are NOT College Journalism Majors
49 posted on 02/15/2005 6:25:23 AM PST by uncbob
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To: FlyLow

A "rampant, unedited dialogue" bump...


50 posted on 02/15/2005 6:25:44 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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