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Six People Survive 400-Foot Plunge Off Mountain Pass: Colorado
The Denver Channel ^ | 9:37 am EST February 15, 2005 | staff

Posted on 02/15/2005 8:28:35 AM PST by rface

DENVER -- Seat belts are being credited with saving six people after a van slid off a mountain pass and dropped 400 feet down a sheer cliff Saturday afternoon, the Colorado State Patrol said.

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Passengers walk around shortly after their van plummeted
down this embankment. This view is looking straight down from Red Mountain Pass.

Five of the victims were able to get out of the wrecked vehicle and climb 400 feet back up the cliff with help from rescuers with Ouray Search and Rescue. One person who was lifted up in a rescue stretcher was walking around the hospital a few hours later in good condition, the CSP said.

By 6:30 p.m., all six victims were released from the hospital and on the road again -- all of them with just bumps and bruises.

The group was traveling from Durango, Colo., to Montrose , Colo., on Highway 550 Red Mountain Pass, about 6.6 miles south of Ouray, when the accident occurred at about 4 p.m.

The victims were identified as two families from Montrose returning from a basketball game. Terry Holman was sitting in the front passenger seat and said that he thought they would all die when the van plunged down the hill. After the van came to a rest, he didn't realize how far it had fallen.

"Looking up, it didn't look near as far as it did when we looked down," said Holman. "The estimates I've heard, they're saying anywhere from 400 to 500 feet."

"I heard him say, 'I'm sorry, we're going over.' Because we were only going about 10 mph at the time and going really slowly. We just lost control, lost traction," said survivor Terry Sullivan.

The CSP said the victims are extremely lucky and attributed their miraculous survival to all six wearing seatbelts.

"After the first roll, and you're still alive, and you still feel it, I said, 'You know, maybe we're OK.' But then you roll again and again. We never stopped, so I kept thinking we've survived every roll it seemed like," said Joe Sullivan.


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Pontiac minivan w/ OnStar
1 posted on 02/15/2005 8:28:35 AM PST by rface
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To: rface

My goodness!
Someone was looking out for these people.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 8:30:22 AM PST by srm913
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To: rface

OK, now a SUV saves lives, but no mention of that in the headline. Then later, it's referred to as a "van". Bias!


3 posted on 02/15/2005 8:31:50 AM PST by Professional
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What was going on in the van on the way down! YEEEEEEHAAAW!
4 posted on 02/15/2005 8:32:09 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: Professional
You idiot. Good news is not news.

Also, this is one of the rare "good" SUVs; They slip by QC from time to time.

5 posted on 02/15/2005 8:34:32 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: rface

400 ft drop, falling at 32 ft/sec/sec, or 12.5 second fall.

I can't imagine.


6 posted on 02/15/2005 8:34:46 AM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: rface

Coming soon in an Onstar commercial.


7 posted on 02/15/2005 8:35:19 AM PST by miele man
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To: Gefreiter

It wasn't so much a "400 foot plunge" as a 400 foot Kamikaze-downhill. Fun on a mountain bike, but not in a minivan!


8 posted on 02/15/2005 8:38:07 AM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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To: rface
I've driven this road ... it's scary to drive in the warm weather months, in the winter ... no thanks. In fact at one point along this road, which has numerous switchbacks, there's a memorial to snow plow drivers. Several have been killed over the years when their trucks (much like what happened to this van) slid off the road into deep ravines.
9 posted on 02/15/2005 8:38:10 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: rface

an extra ordinary situation made possible by lots and lots of soft; relitivly speaking, snow. I am sure the wet snowy roads caused the accident, but the snow also allowed the van to roll and slide down the hill while acting as a brake and a cushon. Is that had happened on a summers day the van would be in pieces due to friction adn snaging on rocks, stumps adn anything else there.

They can consider themselves lucky that the snow was there.


10 posted on 02/15/2005 8:42:56 AM PST by Bigs from the North (Michigan: a state surrounded by water; a sea of red with islands of blue)
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To: BluH2o

I went across 550 in a snow storm once when it was already packed. Quite a thrill.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 8:44:03 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: BluH2o

I can't even imagine driving on those roads in the winter..

I made my first visit to Colorado 18 months ago,in early September,and a family member was doing the driving.I kept my eyes closed most of the time and the roads were bone dry.


12 posted on 02/15/2005 8:45:43 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: BluH2o

Maybe someone should alert CDOT that guardrails have been invented?


13 posted on 02/15/2005 8:48:38 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: rface

THAT'S the information I was looking for! Amazing...


14 posted on 02/15/2005 8:49:25 AM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: BluH2o
I've driven this road ... it's scary to drive in the warm weather months, in the winter ... no thanks.

I've driven it too, and you're right, it's scary even in the summer. There are places on that road where there is zero room for error. If you're on the outside lane and you slide a foot, you go over the edge. When I first heard this story I wondered how a guy going 10 miles an hour could plunge down the mountain, then I heard it was Red Mountain Pass. Yup. I'm so glad they're OK. They're very lucky.

15 posted on 02/15/2005 8:50:06 AM PST by Glenmerle
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To: Gefreiter
400 ft drop, falling at 32 ft/sec/sec, or 12.5 second fall.

I can't imagine.


Judging by the pictures of tracks through the snow most of the way down, it wasn't a vertical face (even though downward-facing pictures can make a face look deceptively vertical. I think the snow really cushioned their slide, and their descent was probably relatively slow and controlled due to the resistance of the tires through the deep snow. It appears that it slid most of the way through deep snow, then rolled the rest of the way. The rolling was probably the most dangerous part of the descent, but again, deep snow can cushion the rolling quite a bit.
16 posted on 02/15/2005 9:08:37 AM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: Gefreiter
400 ft drop, falling at 32 ft/sec/sec, or 12.5 second fall. I can't imagine.

I hope they had a change of underwear...

17 posted on 02/15/2005 10:46:51 AM PST by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: Gefreiter
400 ft drop, falling at 32 ft/sec/sec, or 12.5 second fall. I can't imagine.

Check your math. Dividing 400 by 32 gives the 12.5 seconds, but I don't think that's the correct answer.

The 32 ft./sec/sec has that "second second" because of the acceleration factor. So, if I recall my physics correctly, you fall 32 ft in the first second, 64 in the 2nd second, 96 in the 3rd second, etc..

So, the fall probably took about 4.5 seconds.

Caveat: eventually, air resistance stops the acceleration process, so people who free-fall out of an airplane or a very high building eventually reach terminal velocity. I think it is around 130 mph or so.

18 posted on 02/15/2005 10:51:51 AM PST by Panzerfaust
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To: Panzerfaust

P,
Hey yeah, terminal velocity.

But it looks like neither of us needed to bother with the arithmetic, as it seems it wasn't a sheer drop.

But even if it were, and the numbers come up to 4-5 seconds, that's a long time to free fall.

However we cut the numbers, guess about the slope of the cliff or the depth of the snow, all I know is I'd be screaming like Dean off the side of that road!

YEEAAAAARRGH!


19 posted on 02/15/2005 11:02:23 AM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: Gefreiter

The data lacks the friction coefficient for rock and snow.


20 posted on 02/15/2005 11:38:44 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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