The Sick Man of Europe – Again: Islamism and leftism add up to anti-American madness in Turkey.

The Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal ^ | February 16, 2005 | Robert L. Pollock

[tkathy]

Turkey is in denial about its genocidal past.

[Destro]

You are incorrect - Great Britain's position does not share a position of respect, credibility, clout, nor does it have a commanding force throughout the Middle East. The UK went along with America because it is standard UK policy to serve as America's closest ally - no matter what - America drives off a bridge- the UK will do so as well. Has been this way ever since America humiliated the British during the Suez Canal war.

[Destro]

That is incorrect - fear of Kurdistan and not failure to be invited into the EU was the reason.

[Destro]

Turkey was a hell hole under Attaturk - all he did was cloth them like Europeans but they Turkey still was the hell hole of Europe - the meat grinder of Christianity.

[JZelle]

"The Socialists (Leftists) in the USA are aligned with Islam. And it is a very DANGEROUS SICK, TWISTED Marxist alignment that is going to do great damage -- heads up everyone."


This pretty much sums up David Horowitz's new book, "Holy War". The Left is loyal only to the revolution which is destruction of western culture.

[EagleUSA]

This pretty much sums up David Horowitz's new book, "Holy War". The Left is loyal only to the revolution which is destruction of western culture.
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Yes, they are a bunch of sick, dangerous freaks.

[Heatseeker]

I don't disagree if you are referring to the Genocide period. And even thereafter probably. All I'm saying is that there are Turks who are friendly to America and who don't mean us harm.

[jusduat]

All that I have heard about the Kurds seems to be good.
They seem reasonable, so why is everyone in the ME afraid
that they might get some power?

[Destro]

I posit that any official Turkish friendliness had to do with the fact that we were a Cold War patron of Turkey.

[Destro]

Because the Kurds would take away huge chunks of land if they gained independence from Iraq, Turkey, Iran and even Syria.

[USF]

Thanks for the ping Jan.

[Turk2]

And what a collapse it has been. On a brief visit to Ankara earlier this month with Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith, I found a poisonous atmosphere — one in which just about every politician and media outlet (secular and religious) preaches an extreme combination of America- and Jew-hatred …

Which country is this guy talking about? Its definitely not not Turkey since I live there.

[Turk2]

You mean a group of poorly educated, extremely gullable people whose so-called leaders are drug smuggling tribesmen in suits which have never ever formed a state? You hear good things about them because the US needs them to keep its foothold in Iraq.

[Turk2]

...Turkish-American ties self-destructed, leaving a vacuum that was filled by the subtle yet insidious Islamism of the Justice and Development (AK) Party...

What a lie. The US supported the AKP and assisted it in every way it possibly could before the elections so that it would win and come to power.

[Turk2]

Sure It's Fiction. But Many Turks See Fact in Anti-US Novel

What's so special about a conspiracy novel being popular in Turkey. Remember The Da Vinci Code? All that stuff (e.g. that members of Skull and Bones, the secret society that President Bush joined as a student at Yale, has taken control of US foreign policy — Illuminati stuff; He further suggested that the US military is developing technology that would allow it to trigger earthquakes, something that will eventually be used against Turkey - HAARP related stuff) can be found in any conspiracy theory book or website in the US.

The Christian Science Monitor is one of the last sources to refer to when reading about Turkey.

[jusduat]

I will have to take your word on that, you are closer to the situation than I am.

[turk38]

I am Turkish if you aren't how can you know better than me?We are warrior people and army is always important for us.But you are that uneducated or walking around with your horse glasses to say Turkey is ruled by General Staff and military does everything else.Do you really believe that with the 70 million population of Turkey is ruled by army?Dear friends especially now a days really we have some question marks about United States.Because who is turning back to who?Turkey to Usa or Usa to Turkey?What is Bush's main mission?Sorting out terrorism.What are they doing for to sort out PKK in Northern Iraq?Nothing.Classical American Politician promises (not to keep for).Usa is an allied country of Turkey for Turkish people but they don't act like an allied country.Here is two sides.But with your direct logics you just want to see one side.Which is Turkey doesn't like Usa.I think in different way.Usa doesn't like Turkey.You have to question this as well.Suddenly it appears like we started to hate Usa.I am so sorry in this but it is totally opposite.Please do not dream about anything else.We are strong and we invite Greece or Armenia to here for fighting.It will be necesarry we will walk to the Northern Iraq as well.Independent kurdistan is like finding bear in the turtle (impossible). I am so sorry for the long answer because I am Turk and I prode of being Turk in this world.Some people in this forum they attacked without thinking.We are really very strong country and we have saying dogs bark but camels walk.We keep walking.You just bark.We can sort out anything else by the power of Allah love in our hearts.

[Aquinasfan]

And this is the "jewel" of the Mohammedan world.

[Destro]

Yes, Turkey is going through a transition but in the past the General staff ruled Turkey like the Prussian general staff ruled Germany.

[turk38]

Yes you are right it was a shame for democracy but in that times I was 8 years old and now I am 33. But why it happened do you know this?No. Then first you check yourself on the mirror and than talk about me.