[hedgetrimmer]

Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

Still, I hope folks reading this thread heed the call. The game is afoot, and visioning and facilitated meetings are one way to accomplish the goal of the collectivization of our society and the elimination of private property and property rights.

[meadsjn]

Back in the early years of college I worked in a convenience store when an epidemic of "short changing" was occurring. The simple solution was to adhere to a strict cash-handling process, and at the first indication that the customer was trying to pull the "short change" scheme, to shut the cash drawer.

People who have not previously observed such underhanded manipulative techniques are shocked that they could be duped in such a manner. Once they see it in practice, they realize that the honest person in the process doesn't stand a chance against the dishonest one.

The only solution is to teach the intended victims to recognize the scam, and to shut the process down before the cash gets into the crooks' hands.

The facilitated consensus process is even more manipulative and devious, and steals many gazillions of dollars, and untold liberties, from its victims. It is nearly impossible to inform the millions of citizens who are defrauded by NGOs, academians, and such each year.