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Lender takes all in repo cases
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 01/30/05 | Alan Judd, Carrie Teegardin, Ann Hardie

Posted on 02/17/2005 5:39:09 AM PST by A. Pole

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1 posted on 02/17/2005 5:39:10 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...

Free market usury bump.


2 posted on 02/17/2005 5:39:41 AM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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You would have to be insane to do this.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 5:43:19 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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Its legalised theft. No wonder the Mafia is about out of business, most of their scams are legal now. Drugs and Prostitution is all they have left.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 5:52:04 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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The loans, defined in state law as pawn transactions, are made in exchange for a car title and a spare set of keys. They come at a hefty price: 25 percent interest a month, which works out to an annual rate of 300 percent.

The people who would get a loan under these conditions are the same people who blow their welfare/SSI checks at the casinoes every month.

5 posted on 02/17/2005 5:52:59 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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No wonder the Mafia is about out of business, most of their scams are legal now. Drugs and Prostitution is all they have left.

I did not think about that.

6 posted on 02/17/2005 5:55:11 AM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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Criminy some people are stupid, but usury laws should be all over this guy. What a pity.


7 posted on 02/17/2005 5:56:48 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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One the one hand, I can see the need for places like this... When someone with no credit needs some money to get by for a short period of time, it can be helpful, but at the same time, it can be a trap.

On the other hand, due to the fact that the loan company is working with people with either bad or no credit history, it is inherently a high risk business. So they should be allowed to charge higher interest rates.

On the other hand, lending laws of the states should be such that if a car is repossed and sold off, after documented expenses, any remaining funds should revert back to the person who was the owner of the vehicle. And there should also probably be rules giving the owner a chance to try to get the vehicle back before it can be disposed of. Possibly a "waiting period."

All in all, it's an ugly situation. I had to work on some computers at a "payday loan" company once, and I saw the loan contract. IIRC, the APR works out to about 400%, due to the high interest rate and short terms of the loans (2 weeks).

Mark


8 posted on 02/17/2005 5:57:24 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: TXBSAFH

You would have to be insane to do this.....I don't know about insane, but certainly uninformed about monetary and economic issues. These are people who do not know how to access opportunity.


9 posted on 02/17/2005 5:58:11 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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Debt will crash this nation. A sign of the times.


10 posted on 02/17/2005 5:58:40 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: Centurion2000

Criminy some people are stupid, but usury laws should be all over this guy. What a pity.
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He found a loophole and he's driving his Cadillac through it. My guess is permissible interest rates in the pawn business are high.


11 posted on 02/17/2005 6:00:30 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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Yeah, the guy's a shark. But we need laws to reduce his interest rates why?? There's an easy way to avoid the bite. Don't borrow from the guy. Or if you do, don't borrow more than you pay back. Quickly. That's too demanding a set of requirements for grown men and women?


12 posted on 02/17/2005 6:06:27 AM PST by Timm
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It is five times as high as Georgia allows for most regulated loans.

Someone please explain how the state has any right to interfere in an arm's-length business contract. Recently, my state's A.G. has been threatening to regulate (or eliminate) payday loans because the interest rates -- plainly stated in black-and-white on every such contract -- are "too high."

The nanny state reigns.


13 posted on 02/17/2005 6:09:42 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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Those title loans places are all over my hometown. Me and my uncle always joke about opening up a title loan/bail bondsman/used car lot someday .. we figure we'd be rich in no time! :P


14 posted on 02/17/2005 6:11:17 AM PST by somniferum
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Someone please explain how the state has any right to interfere in an arm's-length business contract.

What about restoring the slavery for debts as it was in the free market Rome? Based on contract, you know?

15 posted on 02/17/2005 6:16:38 AM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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So they should be allowed to charge higher interest rates.

By whom? You might be able to convince me that the state should be allowed to mandate that lenders follow some standard method of stating the effective annual interest rate on the loan application. But, as far as any limitations on the rate itself, that's for the lender and borrower to decide.

16 posted on 02/17/2005 6:18:52 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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What about restoring the slavery for debts as it was in the free market Rome? Based on contract, you know?

You'd probably have to repeal the bankruptcy laws, first.

17 posted on 02/17/2005 6:22:49 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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You'd probably have to repeal the bankruptcy laws, first.

It is being considered. I wonder of limited personal liability for the owners/shareholders/CEO will be repealed as well, so they cannot hide behind the corporate cover and cannot profit from the failed enterprises?

We live in the post-Christian times. The free market "conservatists" work or restoring ancient slavery while the liberal "progressives" work on restoring the decadence of Caligula and Elagabalus.

Freemarketeers and diversity types work together on dismantling Western civilisation.

18 posted on 02/17/2005 6:35:40 AM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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So, you don't like the Biblical method of working off one's debts?


19 posted on 02/17/2005 6:37:49 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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I see what you are saying and I know you will never agree. But this is the sort of thing that no one in their right mind would ever do, hence the call to outlaw it.

Yeah, I know. If these people aren't stepping in it this way, they will just find another.

20 posted on 02/17/2005 6:41:28 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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