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To: Coleus
My Children tell other Children about God the bible Ruch Limbaugh, conservatism -- if they were to cut and run the students in their classes would have no witness other than the words of their liberal teachers.

My children far from perfect far from spiritual giants let their little lights shine in the darkness. Today Jon age 13 took to school an article to school from FR on the historic racism of the demoncrats and demoncratic party he had quite a stir with the article and your comments.

Someone has to do the work and if we talk and are close to our children with what they hear they learn discernment, they learn how to articulate what they beleive, and can tell others .

5 posted on 02/18/2005 9:36:31 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: Rocketman

TG you don't homeschool judging by your sentence structure and spelling.


9 posted on 02/18/2005 9:40:22 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: Rocketman
That would be great if your kids education were not being sacrificed so they could bear witness to the other kids. I am not willing to do that with my kids future.

About a month ago I posted the following to a thread, but the thread had few people read it, so ya probably haven't. So forgive my posting this here, but it is easier than retdescribing it all, and it is even MORE on topic here than it was there.
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Last year, I took my son to New Orleans. When we returned, during a conversation with his 6th grade teacher, I told her I had taken him on the Mississippi Queen riverboat, at which time she asked me "what river is that on?". I was stunned, and had to bite my tongue from yanking her chain by saying it was the Nile. During the same conversation, she asked me if my son noticed the difference there. I asked what she meant, and she said "You know, the blacks and whites bathrooms and water-fountains". This woman, who graduated from college about 3 yrs earlier thought they still had segregation in the south.

At this point, my confidence in our education system was getting pretty shaky, not that it was ever very high.

This year they do the federal reading testing, and all parents get letters saying that our school came out a few points low, I cannot remember the cutoff score. Anyway, the upshot was that since the school a few miles up the road had a higher score, well above the requirements, the parents whose kids scored below a certain level could enroll their kids at the better school next year. I guess the theory is that "We are doing you a favor by letting you move your kid, who has reading problems, up to a school which is doing a better job". The reality is much different. By moving a few kids from this school, to the "better" one, the scores for this school raise next year, the scores for the "better" school drops a couple points, but is still above the cutoff point. Next Year they can say "Look at the scores, we have improved.. now give us more money", when in fact they have improved nothing. All they HAVE done is played a numbers game, passed the problem kids off onto someone else, and added a half hour to the bus ride for the kids.

Recently I went and hung out in my son's class for a couple hours, just to observe how things happen there. the kids are sharing tables, about 5 kids to each table. There seemed to be no structure at all, and kids were basically wandering around from table to table. The teacher spent his whole time behind his desk with his nose in a book and feet on his desk.

This same teacher later told me "It is not my job to teach them. I give them their assignments, and they are supposed to work it out and I help them when they really get hung up".

At this point, I am on the verge of pulling my kid outta this school.

The following week, 2 weeks ago, my son came home upset because a teacher had told him he could not wear his necklace to school. It is not as if such are forbidden, other kids wear jewelry and such in his class, but his is a cross about one inch high with a little tag that says "forgiven".

I am aware I do not have to let them push him around on that last issue, but at this point, I figured this school was not worth it anyway, and my son is now enrolled in a private school.

BTW, last week, my son and I were in the store. A lady I did not know asked me "Is your son's name William?". I said yeah, and she says "I thought I recognized him... I sometimes teach at this school and at the one in Noel". When I mentioned that he did not go to school here, and she asked about it, and I told her where he goes to school now, she tells me HER kids go to a private, Christian based school too. What does it tell us when the public school teachers send THEIR kids to private schools?
18 posted on 02/18/2005 9:51:54 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: Rocketman

I can understand what you are saying. However, I bet you wouldn't let your children play with fire and their spiritual condition is much more important than fire. You are putting your children into the wolf pen and telling them that their witness is worth being in there. It is surprising what peer pressure and ostracizing can do to a child, even to one grounded in faith and to justify putting young people into this situation is playing with fire. I may be wrong, but I believe most people who justify keeping their children in the public schools have an ulterior motive and normally that motive is convenience.


87 posted on 02/19/2005 12:15:37 AM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Rocketman

Rocketman, I'm going to tell you something that I have almost never said to anyone, and be assured I have deliberated and I'm absolutely certain of this: You are making a grievous mistake.


116 posted on 02/19/2005 5:56:15 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Rocketman

After 12 years of liberal brainwashing your children for 7 hours a day, I wonder if you will still be as happy with the choice once they are grown and the teaching is done. I wish you and your family the best of luck, but I will not take that chance with mine.


122 posted on 02/19/2005 7:08:25 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Rocketman

My Children tell other Children about God the bible Ruch Limbaugh, conservatism -- if they were to cut and run the students in their classes would have no witness other than the words of their liberal teachers.
My children far from perfect far from spiritual giants let their little lights shine in the darkness. Today Jon age 13 took to school an article to school from FR on the historic racism of the demoncrats and demoncratic party he had quite a stir with the article and your comments.

Someone has to do the work and if we talk and are close to our children with what they hear they learn discernment, they learn how to articulate what they beleive, and can tell others

I do compliment you as one of those "liberal" teachers on realizing that PARENTS are the major influence on their children. I also compliment you that you realize that your children can be good examples to others. My parents realized the same thing. Education was a priority in our homes. I am glad that my parents taught me to respect teachers as well (a legacy from their own parents). I learned from so many good ones in the public schools I attended. Sure, there were sometimes my parents had questions, but for the most part it has been a good experience for my family in 30 years of public ed. All 8 of us have graduated from college, are productive in our vocational fields, and place much importance in having strong families and our faith in the Savior (all of us are regular churchgoers). I try my best to impart those values to my own little students and love to see the little miracles that occur daily--my students sometimes even serve as my own teachers--teaching me about the little things that are so important in life.


323 posted on 02/19/2005 4:42:07 PM PST by moog
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