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New Yorkers again going after "assault weapons"
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Posted on 02/19/2005 7:20:03 AM PST by God defeats Darwin

Press Release New Yorkers Against Gun Violence New York, NY www.nyagv.org nyagv@nyagv.org

Early this afternoon New Yorkers Against Gun Violence (NYAGV) held a press conference concerning Sunday afternoon's shooting spree at the Hudson Valley Mall where a 24-year old man armed with an assault rifle injured two people before being subdued. Reports stated that the weapon used was a Hesse Model 47 (a copy cat version of the banned AK-47 assault weapon). In addition, the shooter was able to squeeze off approximately 60 rounds and may have reloaded one time.

Despite New York State's ban on certain assault weapons (passed in 2000), many models of military-style assault rifles are legally sold at gun stores and gun shows around New York State. The gun industry continues to profit from sales of guns made only to kill as many people as quickly as possible by making minor cosmetic changes to banned assault guns to produce "copy cat" and "knock-off" versions. Currently, there is legislation in the NY State Assembly that would strengthen the state's assault weapons ban (A.2466), which would include copy cat assault weapons like the Hesse Model 47. A similar bill is due to be re-introduced this week in the NY State Senate.

Andy Pelosi, Executive Director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence said, "The reality in New York State is that the current ban on assault weapons is inadequate and Sunday's shooting only serves to highlight the fact that an entire class of deadly weapons can still be obtained by civilians to wreak havoc. Military-style assault weapons are preferred by criminal gangs, drug dealers and individuals intent on mass murder. Last September, President Bush and Congress abdicated their responsibility to the people of this country by not passing a strong and effective federal assault weapons ban. Our representatives in Albany, along with the Governor, have the opportunity to pass a meaningful assault weapons ban that closes the loopholes in the current law."

Pelosi continued: "Let's face it, the good folks at Hudson Valley Mall were lucky Sunday that this man was not intent on the sort of death and destruction he could easily have exacted with his weapon. But, I regret to say that Sunday's incident could prove a precursor to future mayhem elsewhere. As long as we allow the private sale of assault weapons, the likelihood exists for truly lethal attacks by terrorists or disturbed individuals in public places around our country."

Bryan Miller, Executive Director of Ceasefire NJ, whose only brother, FBI Special Agent Mike Miller, was one of three law enforcement officers killed in a 1994 massacre at Washington, DC Police Headquarters by a lone gunman wielding an assault gun said: "I can tell you, there are some weapons that are just plain inappropriate for civil society, especially assault weapons. By allowing such mass killing machines to be sold on the civilian market we make it easy for disturbed people like Robert Bonelli or criminals like the man who killed my brother to get their hands on them and enact mayhem. And that mayhem means families and communities grieving, because we let the gun lobby have its way. Everyone was lucky this time, but that won't always be the case, as it wasn't for Mike. It is pure insanity to allow the sale of assault weapons."

Barbara Hohlt, board member of NYAGV said, "We have a moral obligation as citizens and parents to make sure that our communities, malls, schools and streets are safe from these weapons of war. We must make sure that assault weapons are not available in our communities."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaultweapons; bang; banglist; guns; haveguns; newyork; onlyoutlawswill; whentheyoutlawguns
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Would somebody PLEASE think of the children!!!!!(/sarcasm)
1 posted on 02/19/2005 7:20:05 AM PST by God defeats Darwin
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To: God defeats Darwin

Those gun laws really work, don't they?


2 posted on 02/19/2005 7:23:18 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: God defeats Darwin

If made by Hesse? Surprised it fired...


3 posted on 02/19/2005 7:23:23 AM PST by donozark (Book of the day:UTMOST SAVAGERY. By Joseph Alexander.)
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To: God defeats Darwin
The New York City ban on firearms and the general firearms restrictions throughout New York State served to provide a totally unarmed shooting gallery for the crazy man at the shopping mall.

Those people were hurt through the negligent design of the warp and woof of public safety systems.

It couldn't have been worse if they'd had the grand architect of their nonsense, "Chuckie" Schumer pulling the trigger himself.

4 posted on 02/19/2005 7:25:19 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Piquaboy

Now, if they would only make murder illegal..........


5 posted on 02/19/2005 7:28:46 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: God defeats Darwin
New Yorkers again going after "assault weapons"

Does this mean Hillary will lose in 06

6 posted on 02/19/2005 7:30:37 AM PST by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: God defeats Darwin
Let's give them a good old fashioned freeping, Here's their email address:

editor@jointogether.org

7 posted on 02/19/2005 7:31:12 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: God defeats Darwin

Car and Truck bombs kill people. Lets ban cars and trucks.
Them damn vehicles have a mind of their own and are dangerous to possess.


8 posted on 02/19/2005 7:31:17 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: o_zarkman44

Does New Dork already have a state assault weapon ban?


9 posted on 02/19/2005 7:33:36 AM PST by boofus
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To: Piquaboy

Apparently, what they should be banning is marksmanship for idiots!

If every whacked-out idiot who goes off and starts shooting people is as poor a shot as this hammerhead (60 rounds in a crowd, and only two hits???), then those of us who actually can shoot should make quick work of them.

If one legally armed and properly trained citizen had been in that crowd, we'd be reading about this in the "Armed Citizen" column in American Rifleman, not the MSM.

And, it would read "Armed citizen stops rampaging madman in mall with well placed shots".

I know...I know. He did shoot a couple of people, and it would certainly suck to be them, but maybe someone could have capped him off before he got to them.

Kudos to whomever wrestled him down though. That took balls.


10 posted on 02/19/2005 7:37:25 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: God defeats Darwin
Much more than "going after".. they want to confiscate everything "pre ban" or that even smells like an "assault weapon".

The worst of all of them is a "closet illegal" by the name of Felix Ortiz from downstate - he wanted to ban pickups & large SUV's from small towns in NY (low grade elected moron alert)

11 posted on 02/19/2005 7:37:32 AM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: God defeats Darwin

"...guns made only to kill as many people as quickly as possible..."

I Dunno, my Colt CAR A3 HBAR Elite is set up to punch the smallest hole possible at 200 yards. However, I know most people use them to rob liquor stores. (sarcasm off/)


12 posted on 02/19/2005 7:41:48 AM PST by Felis_irritable
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To: God defeats Darwin

60 rounds, two hits, no fatalities? Either one or both of the hits were the real target(s), or this was a failed attempt at "suicide by cop".

Otherwise how could he have failed to hit at least a few more people?


13 posted on 02/19/2005 7:43:34 AM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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To: God defeats Darwin

bump


14 posted on 02/19/2005 7:51:49 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: donozark
If made by Hesse? Surprised it fired..

Pathan "gunsmiths" in the tribal territories along the Pakistan Afghanistan border can made a functioning AK-47, with nothing but non-power hand tools, so I imagine even Hesse can manage it as well.

15 posted on 02/19/2005 8:40:57 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: JimRed
Otherwise how could he have failed to hit at least a few more people?

He was probably mostly not shooting at people. Either he was shooting a things or just exercising the "Spray and Pray" technique he's seen in the movies, or both.

16 posted on 02/19/2005 8:44:31 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Piquaboy
Don't they. If the folks were packing this nitwit wouldn't have popped off 60 rounds and we probably wouldn't have to pay for his trial.
17 posted on 02/19/2005 8:46:55 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: God defeats Darwin
Andy Pelosi, Executive Director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence

any relation to that OTHER flaming A-hole?

18 posted on 02/19/2005 9:10:39 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: God defeats Darwin

Here we go again. Someone gets shot, and the gun grabbers throw a party and cheer.


19 posted on 02/19/2005 9:12:51 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("It's easy to hide behind a microphone, son" - Coach Mike Ditka)
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To: God defeats Darwin
If some dumbass used a car to mow down a bunch of bystanders would these same dunderheads be wanting to ban cars?

Hell no, but these New York blue state idiots want to ban guns just the same. Both are inanimate mechanical objects...capable of doing nothing without human intervention.
20 posted on 02/19/2005 9:17:14 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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