Posted on 02/20/2005 2:47:36 PM PST by pickrell
Yep.....
Good story-excellent explanations for the need for frim fair discipline.
My ex-wife never understood this and never will. Which is why she is my ex and I cringe every time I visit my kids
I have used a variation of this to DEFINE liberalism this way: Liberalism is the rejection of hundreds or even thousands of years of accumulated knoweleged and wisdom to embrace every sort of whacko, nitwit idea that comes along simply because the liberal rejects the people it comes from.
It is the equivalent of me ignoring the warning to "Watch out for that car!" given by a cross-dressing tranvestite simply because I didn't approve of their lifestyle.
I was one of those mother's that insisted that I would never spank my child, until the day that she jerked her hand out of mine in a parking lot and ran out in front of a car. I realized then that no matter how intelligent my three year old was, I couldn't possibly explain what would have happened to her if she had gotten hit. I took her home and spanked her. It was half-hearted and not very hard because I didn't really want to do it, but it worked. She never ran from me again.
My mother and in-laws just smiled knowingly when I told them about it.
I smiled at that, remembering when my boys were little. They simply didn't understand about the road and - They had no knowledge of "really hurt" or "killed" - So I told them if they went near the road, a truck might "sit" on them.
They got the picture!
I am truly sorry to hear that. Please continue to use whatever influence you have with your children. Many, many children will often recognize destructive behavior and practically cry our for limitations to be set for them. I have seen at least three young boys in my neighborhood who I could literally see it in them, but their moms were too absorbed with themselves or their new boyfriend/husband or new baby in the next relationship to even see it. Make your phone and home available 24/7/365 to them should they ever need you and they will see you as the one who really cares enough to say "no".
Yes, when you actually become a parent you realize that children sometimes must respond INSTANTLY to your voice knowing that disobedience means a spanking.
My four year old daughter KNOWS that when I yell, "KATHRYN ELIZABETH! STOP!", that she had better stop that instant. Once she almost ran in front of a car when I yelled at her and she stopped instantly and came back to me wanting a hug to be reassured that I was not mad and that she did the right the right thing. Of course, I did.
Thanks for your thoughts. I plan on doing just what you say, but know I will have to wait before they come to that realization.
They are having too much fun now running my former household
I hope they come around, all I can do is maintain as much contact as I can. Even those can be trying.
Today I was over and my 10 year old daughter in hip huggers and midriff top proudly showed me the temporary butterfly tattoo on her back near her hip.
When my response was less than enthusiastic, her mother asked me why I had a problem with it.
The only thing that went through my mind was that if she had to ask the question, she wouldn't understand the explanation.
I do what I can, but haven't gotten any back up for about 3 years now.
I agree. But I had to learn that by watching my daughter come within inches of serious injury or death. You see, back in those days, I was a know-it-all liberal. I bought into all of the liberal BS. And I certainly wasn't going to listen to my mother or my mother-in-law. It wasn't until I was in a real-life situation, rather than reading "studies" by "experts" in a book, that I realized that I could not reason with a three year old.
I wish his father had helped him learn some self discipline at a younger age -- a spank or two probably would have helped a lot, though I admit I'm no real expert on the topic.
Amen to that! Finally, someone with common sense!
Told people for years....."I spank my kids, 'cause I love 'em." All my mom had to do was give me 'the look'.
Have you considered suing for custody? You sound like the better parent.
That happened to me the other day with my boy (3 years old), it scared me half to death, and he cried his eyes out because I was so upset. Of course I spank him already, and I think the fear of getting another spanking is what made him cry, and what keeps him in line half the time. Making him stand in the corner is now almost as bad as spanking him, but he knows what will happen if he doesn't listen to Daddy and Mommy.
When my response was less than enthusiastic, her mother asked me why I had a problem with it.
Tell your ex that it's called a tramp stamp.
You're right, but it wouldn't matter
I'm too rigid
Long story, believe me, i am no prude. 25 years as a cop in Military and civilian world, I've seen a lot of things, and developed a certain situational sense of right and wrong to deal with my world.
But when it comes to the home, there needs to be firm, but fair guidelines.
That made me an insufferable a@@
how straight on..
my mom and dad had 6 kids... all three boys had spankings (we called them whoopins) and i remember getting 3 whoopins from Dad with the belt.. and why.
my two sisters never had ONE spanking. guess who is liberal and who is conservative? it's NO coincidence the two who never had a spanking grew up to be libs who have both been divorced and don't give their kids spankings either.. no coincidence at all..
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