Posted on 02/20/2005 6:10:57 PM PST by CHARLITE
Sat Feb 19, 8:10 PM ET
Holy ceremony : An Iraqi Muslim Shiites walks alone outisde Imam Mussa al-Kazem in central Baghdad, after he flagellated himself during the peak of Ashura, which marks the death of Imam Hussein, grandson of Prophet Mohammed. (AFP/Karim Sahib)
Sat Feb 19, 7:11 PM ET
For Imam Hussein : An Iraqi Muslim Shiite boy flagellates himself outside Imam Mussa al-Kazem shrine.
Sat Feb 19, 6:04 PM ET
Iraqi Muslim Shiites flagellate themselves.
Ping!
Ahh yes, the ol' religion o' peace...
Thanks for posting.
I've posted about this barbaric behavior in the past, but we should remember that in places like Philiphines their ceremonies are equally as brutal.
Yea! In the Philiphines, the Christians even nail themselves to crosses!
These folks need some strong EggNog and learn how to loosen up. Send in Santa Clause to hold some happy rehab sessions.
Eh, they don't got much on Filipino Easter celebrations.
And they also have an ongoing problem with IslamoNazis. HHHHHMMMMMM, I wonder if there is a connection?
Does anyone know how many people participate in this bizarre ritual? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands?
stupid is, as stupid does...
Isn't this the 21st Century? Nobody could convince me that this is sane behavior.
"In the Philiphines, the Christians even nail themselves to crosses!"
Some even engage in drinking blood. Transubstantiation I believe it's called?
at least it is just ceremonial......we don't understand it but if that is what they do and it doesn't involve terrorism or anything, more power to 'em.....
easily hundreds of men do this........
All we can hope for is they will slowly come out of their barbaric practices and at the very least quit their killing of infidels.
I really don't care , if they want to cut themself to pieces. They really need to do some deep flagullating and hit some main arteries.
Perhaps they are being too literal? Transubstantiation, according to Catholic doctrine is when the wine used in communion is transformed to the blood of Christ. Likewise the host is transformed to the flesh of Christ.
Exactly how many infidels have the Iraqi Shia killed?
HERE'S SOME VIDEO OF ASHURA DAY FLAGELLATIONS. Lots of drum beating, blood and a free meal of rice and beans.
http://tv.reuters.com/ifr_main.jsp?st=1108952903546&rf=bm&mp=WMP&wmp=1&rm=0&cpf=true&fr=021905_075542_17d5d2ax1022d1f6805xw6e44&rdm=170261.09987902266
Somehow, I have a hard time believing that God wants His children to mutilate themselves in this idiotic manner.
The sooner that Islam is eradicated from the face of the earth, the better for us all.
FMCDH(BITS)
Yep.
Actually there are three views on the subject and just what transpires. Some groups taking the words literally others subject to a more metaphorical interpretation.
"Somehow, I have a hard time believing that God wants His children to mutilate themselves in this idiotic manner."
Any idea why some Christians might?
Once was enough for all.
At least if they cut 'em up a lot more they won't survive to be bus bombers or jetplane divers...
Filipinos tend to be radically religious - hence their crucification ceremony every year where Catholics are crucified.
Of course, Filipino Christians aren't otherwise blowing themselves up, sliting innocent people's throats, and preaching death to other faiths.
I'm not sure what percentage of people partake in this barbaric ceremony in Iraq, but in Iran it's a fairly small percentage.
OK !!!
That's nothing! I have heard of several groups of religious zealots who cut off their foreskins!
P.R.O.P.* PING!
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There are several pictures of obvious child abuse. No one should be inflicting major cuts on a child for any reason.
"So what's worse? Cutting the kids up (in one religion) or buggering 'em and getting away with it (another religion)?"
I think you know better than to say this. In the Muslim case, it's part of a religious ceremony to injure the children. In the priest's cases, they acted in violation of their religion, sinning.
There is nothing in Catholic theology that condones what they did.
The world is full of bizarre practises. To single out this one is pretty ignorant.
So..when can we start expecting the libtards to say it's ok for muslim kids here in America to start showing up at schools on 'Ashura Day' with butcher's knives and bloodied heads for 'show and tell'.
/semi-sarc
No good purpose is served by judgement upon a people who through their own free will choose to express a facet of their religion by self-punishment. As I understand it, this phenomenon has its roots in the death of the nearest blood relative of mohammad. A death that robbed the Shia of the direct line of succession, the Caliphate. Let them mourn as they see fit. Iraq is now a democratic country, the people have their own customs, culture and history.
JEWISH HOLIDAY: People pray, then EAT.
MUSLIM HOLIDAY: People pray, beat each other with knives and swords, stone "Satan," get trampled and die.
Almost as ignorant as defending them...
Reuters provides us with a whole series of explicit photographs of a custom that is bound to create reaction of disgust in the West, but never brings to our attention such items as the number of schools that have been built, the thousands of children that have been innoculated, the water-filtration plants, the hospitals operational, the numbers of Iraqi men joining the military and the police-force, the over-all reconstruction of Iraq.
Of course not. But pictures of an ancient religious rite that's guaranteed to shock and make some people say 'they are nothing but barabarians' yes, those are pictures Reuters has plenty of.
Thanks for nothing, Reuters. I know what Reuters is up to. Reuters is telling us, 'Look at whom you gave freedom; a bunch of bl**dy barbarians'.
Sorry Reuters, it doesn't work. The Shia might be bleeding, but your preferred Dictator poisoned a village, filled mass-graves, put people into shredders, etc.
#39 FYI.
Self flagellation was practiced by Christian cults during the Medieval period. The practice still exists in Spain.
At least if they cut 'em up a lot more they won't survive to be bus bombers or jetplane divers...
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul.
FMCDH(BITS)
They may nail themselves to crosses, but the numbers of them doing so are very small, and mainstream Christianity calls them nuts. In Islam large numbers do this, and they are called righteous.
""Somehow, I have a hard time believing that God wants His children to mutilate themselves in this idiotic manner."
Any idea why some Christians might?"
duuno. I think some people need to remember that you are save by GRACE, not work. Making yourself bleed, no matter how extreme, will never get you into heaven.
Bingo.
This Shia tradition of self punishment is practiced in atonement for the death in 680AD of one individual, the grandson of mohammad. There is no connection to Baal.
Thanks for the ping!
Baal, God of Thunder.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baal.htm
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