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Schiavo's parents lose appeal
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 2/21/2005 | Maya Bell

Posted on 02/21/2005 10:12:02 AM PST by bjs1779

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To: bjs1779

of course they lost, the courts have repeatedly held that they have no valid legal arguement. This hasnt changed. Terri has been gone for years. No amount of screaming, hollering, name calling, can change this fact.


21 posted on 02/21/2005 10:26:49 AM PST by Bigs from the North (Michigan: a state surrounded by water; a sea of red with islands of blue)
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To: Hildy

You are confused...first of all there is no written request by Terri that she would want assisted death...it's all based on a corrupt and selfish husband who has possibly gotten in way over his head with the assistance by death advocates.

Since you already know that it's not about death by starvation, why do you bother with the gibberish?


22 posted on 02/21/2005 10:27:10 AM PST by eleni121 (Four more years and four more again after that...)
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To: Hildy
.is it the starvation or is it the dying? You have to make up your minds because the starvation happens because, frankly, of people like you who won't let common sense end of life CHOICE.

It's both. Mrs. Schivo ISN'T at the end of her life. She is disabled, yes, but otherwise healthy. She's not on a ventilator to keep her alive. Because she is healthy, it will take a very long time for her to die. If she were at the end of her life, and dying, once nutrition and hydration are removed, death would come quickly. That is not the case here. I've seen a couple of relatives who WERE at the end of their lives. In one case, as death neared, she refused food and water, and she was gone in a couple of days. I understand that in Mrs. Shiavo's case, there is a feeding tube, of course. I think it is absolutely wrong in this case to remove food and hydration, because she is not near death, and it will take her a very long time to die, and she'll die painfully. I also believe it is wrong, because it is the killing of a person who is not near death. It is not simply "allowing" someone to die. If she were on a ventilator, and brain dead, that would be another matter altogether.

23 posted on 02/21/2005 10:27:12 AM PST by .38sw
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To: bjs1779

It's not just that they are removing the feeding tube. They won't give her a sip of water, they won't give her a bite of sherbet. At this point her condition may have deteriorated to the point that she couldn't be hand-fed without choking but we won't know because no one in her family will be allowed to try. It's barbaric.


24 posted on 02/21/2005 10:27:22 AM PST by Sabatier
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To: Hildy

Hildy, I certainly don't hate you, but you have to face facts. This woman is handicapped, not in a "vegetative" state, and the only words we have that she wants to die are from the fornicating husband. Everything I read on here (and it certainly is biased toward her being "kept" alive) indicates she is functioning as a human being at some level, be it only retarded.

What many are asking is that this be evaluated as if she were an adult retarded person, who by the way has not received anything like rehabilitative services due to the husbands controlling access, money, etc.

Look at it from that view point and see what we see.


25 posted on 02/21/2005 10:27:27 AM PST by CedarDave (Democrats don't speak -- they rant!)
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To: Hildy

It is my belief (and I do not speak for everyone)that if you are unaware of what someone's wishes are in the event they are on life support/artificial means, you err on the side of life. Pretty simple, really.


26 posted on 02/21/2005 10:28:10 AM PST by jes
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To: Hildy
I know you guys all hate me on these boards, but I have a question..is it the starvation or is it the dying? You have to make up your minds because the starvation happens because, frankly, of people like you who won't let common sense end of life CHOICE. I'm not talking about killing handicapped people, as I've been accused of. I'm talking about people who have made the decision that they'd rather die than live in the State forced upon them. As far as Terri is concerned, I don't know the answer. I just know I would not want to live like that. I don't pretend to know what she wanted. My point is if it's the starvation aspect that troubles you, that could be fixed. But I know that's not really what you care about.

Is it jujst me, or is this about the most convoluted statement you've ever tried to decipher?

Terri has, it seems to me, a very aware look in her eyes - and she reacts to things said to her - it seems she is aware - just can't make her body respond. This is murder...

27 posted on 02/21/2005 10:28:32 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Hildy
Dear Hildy,

Your tag line says a lot about the way you rationalize.

Let me offer this; Last week a brain dead, comatose person regained the ability to speak after 20 years. Who knows the wonders of the human body and if you believe, the powers God can work. In lieu of a written document stating that she wanted to die in these circumstances, the "state" should not have the power over to unilaterally terminate her life on the say so of the cad ex-husband. Now we know to not waste the electricity on you should you fall into this predicament.

Oh how I would love to be inside your silly mind, your voice mute and helpless, yet fully aware as we shake our collective heads and reach for the plug whilst you blink feverishly to let us know you're alive in there. Oh too bad Hildy, you're a burden to me and besides, I have a new lady friend and family to worry about.
28 posted on 02/21/2005 10:28:38 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......Does anyone see it yet?....)
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To: bjs1779

This is disgusting!!

Is this America?!?


29 posted on 02/21/2005 10:29:11 AM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
hopefully, Jeb will commute this death sentence, and order the AG to fully investigate her injuries.

I've been wondering if that were a legal possibility...

would like to see that happen - she deserves that much!

30 posted on 02/21/2005 10:30:10 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Hildy

Hildy, here's my objection. No one except her untrustworthy husband has EVER heard her say she wanted to die. I don't trust what he said. If you're really for choice, please, give Terri her choice. I believe she can answer for herself, but none of the judges will allow her to be asked.

And yes, the starvation angle is really disturbing. It's a slow, painful way to die, especially for someone who is actually conscious and feels pain--as Terri is.


31 posted on 02/21/2005 10:30:48 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I haven't been following this very close and I apologize, but didn't he try that already (intervened on her behalf) or am I mistaken?


32 posted on 02/21/2005 10:32:09 AM PST by feefee
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To: MizSterious

In addition, Terri is not at the end of her life, and she's not being kept alive by a machine. Denying her food and water will kill a healthy person.


33 posted on 02/21/2005 10:32:13 AM PST by .38sw
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To: bjs1779

I predict that the "husband" will experience a multitude of problems if he lets her die.


35 posted on 02/21/2005 10:33:20 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: bjs1779

I find no difference between this, and Hitler's holocaust-anticipating slaughter of the handicapped in the 1930s. I am disgusted and shocked that this would COME CLOSE to happening in 21st century America.


36 posted on 02/21/2005 10:33:33 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: Hildy

Since starvation leads to death, it is both starvation and death.

It looks like MS and Judge Greer wants to end her life. So why not take her out and shoot her like they do horses. It would be a lot kinder.


38 posted on 02/21/2005 10:35:25 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: MizSterious

Pull the plug on the judge who made this murderous decision. If Terri's wishes were not on paper how can they be legal or binding? Plug the plug on the murderous husband. Guys on death row at least get appeal after appeal. My prayers are with Terri and her family and my wishes for the husband will remain only in my thoughts!


39 posted on 02/21/2005 10:36:06 AM PST by LYSandra
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To: Hildy

There is a big difference between taking someone off of life support and disconnecting a feeding tube.

I look at Christopher Reeve. I don't know if he could feed himself. If he couldn't I don't think anyone ever thought of not feeding him.

No one even tried to rehabilitate Terri Schiavo. That's part of the problem with this case. You don't know how much functioning she could have gained back.

If she was on a ventilator, then I could see disconnecting the vent. That also goes very quickly.

She's breathing on her own, and just needs food. That's not heroic efforts. They can add a feeding tube. Her parents also want to care for her.

I think we all need to look at this case and be sure we have living wills written so that our loved ones know our wishes.


40 posted on 02/21/2005 10:36:41 AM PST by luckystarmom
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