CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS
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Posted on 02/22/2005 12:46:48 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
ROME (Reuters) - Homosexual marriages are part of "a new ideology of evil" that is insidiously threatening society, Pope John Paul says in a new book published Tuesday.
In "Memory and Identity," the Pope also calls abortion a "legal extermination" comparable to attempts to wipe out Jews and other groups in the 20th century.
He also reveals that he is convinced the Turkish gunman who shot him in 1981 did not act alone and suggests that the former Communist Bloc may have been behind the plot to kill him.
The 84-year-old Pontiff's book, a highly philosophical and intricate work on the nature of good and evil, is based on conversations with philosopher friends in 1993 and later with some of his aides.
In one section about the role of lawmakers, the Pope takes another swipe at gay marriages when he refers to "pressures" on the European Parliament to allow them.
"It is legitimate and necessary to ask oneself if this is not perhaps part of a new ideology of evil, perhaps more insidious and hidden, which attempts to pit human rights against the family and against man," he writes.
The Pope's fifth book for mass circulation, issued by Italian publisher Rizzoli, sparked controversy in Germany and elsewhere after Jewish groups protested against leaked excerpts comparing the Holocaust to abortion.
In at least two sections of the book, the Pope talks about the Nazi attempt to exterminate Jews and the wholesale slaughter of political opponents by Communist regimes after World War II.
"LEGAL EXTERMINATION"
In following paragraphs he says that legally elected parliaments in formerly totalitarian countries were today allowing what he called new forms of evil and new exterminations.
"There is still, however a legal extermination of human beings who have been conceived but not yet born," he writes.
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He will be missed when he departs.
YYYYEEEAAAAHHH!!!!
BTTT
The Poep is nailing it on these issues. God bless him for doing so.
John Paul rocks!
In "Memory and Identity," the Pope also calls abortion a "legal extermination" comparable to attempts to wipe out Jews and other groups in the 20th century
This will spin the libs into a frenzy.
Right on. God Bless the Pope!
What's with the Dean Scream?
Call in the boys, the Pope's on a roll!
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The Pope is correct
That'll get the libs all up in arms.
Nice.
"Homosexual marriages are part of "a new ideology of evil"
BTTT!
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***after Jewish groups protested against leaked excerpts comparing the Holocaust to abortion.***
Protest indeed!
The Holocaust's numbers pale in comparison to those of Abortion.
Hehehe...Liberalism is evil.
Ha-ha!
The Pope has said and done many great things, but the comment on gays is not one of them. Gay marriage is evil?
Well, he's right about that.
Courage: it's a beautiful thing.
A sad, sad day for Catholic In Name Only Democrats such as Kerry and Kennedy. How will they denounce the Pope?
GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT??????
In that it "attempts to pit human rights against the family and against man,...", it is evil.
There's this little black book that explains it all, you should try reading it sometime.
Well, we didn't need the Pope to tell us that, but I'm sure glad he spoke up! God bless him.
I love this stuff!
NYTimes, WashPost, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NPR reporting:
Pope Admits Being Evil Homophobic Bigot!
Catholic Church Alings Itself With The KKK!
No doubt this will send all the screamers and mockers of the MSM chatterati into a frenzy of "the pope needs to resign" tirades.
In "Memory and Identity," the Pope also calls abortion a "legal extermination" comparable to attempts to wipe out Jews and other groups in the 20th century.
He also reveals that he is convinced the Turkish gunman who shot him in 1981 did not act alone and suggests that the former Communist Bloc may have been behind the plot to kill him.
Excellent! Reuters can't be happy about this.
Well the libs loved the Vatican when they appeared to be opposing "Bush's War". Now they will go back to the usual hatred.
I'm not Catholic (Methodist, actually). However, kudos to the Catholic Church for electing Karol Wotyla as Pope. While he didn't always see eye to eye with American policy, he recognizes evil when he sees it and isn't afraid to say so. Second to Ronald Reagan, I give him credit for the downfall of the evil of Soviet Communism. Considering the climate in which the Church selected Wotyla Pope, it was a gutsy move, but morally the absolutely right selection on the part of the College of Cardinals.
JP2 has done much to restore the status of the Papacy as a voice of God on earth. While I hope the time is not near, JP2 will be sorely missed when he passes. And I pray for guidance to the College that the Lord guide them in selecting his successor when the time comes.
That message and the one sent when Republicans nominate the first African-American for President of the United States could finally free them the slave-like democrat plantation.
Whatever misgivings I may have about the Catholic Church, they do not apply to JPII. Its a shame he didn't have a better crop of clergy from which to choose better Bishops and Archbishops.
Wow! You tell 'em, Holy Father!
Straining to remember the last time the Vatican issued sage, practical advice on matters sexual: wasn't it, that condoms don't work?
(Or was it just yesterday: 'gay primates'? I must draw the line there, with admitting such great apes to the Big Tent. Bad business all around.)
While the Pope is a conservative on mattes of morals, it's important to realize he's a liberal on matters of faith. As a conservative moralist, he shares his views with many other religionists--including conservative Protestants and most Muslims and orthodox Jews. As a liberal on matters of the Catholic faith, however, he shares his views with the likes of Mahoney and Kasper and Weakland. The problem is that many Catholics see only one side of John Paul II and fail to recognize the harm he has done to the Catholic Church for twenty-five years. He will leave this world with his Church in far worse condition than when he first took over the papacy.
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Please explain, I'm not familiar with this debate about the Catholic church and being "liberal" on matters of faith.
And how has he damaged the Church?
I'm not impressed. He needs to be as conservative on matters of faith as he is on matters of morals. It is the failure to make this distinction that baffles many Catholics. Faith and morals are not the same. This is why many conservative Catholics have no problem with Assisi or with kissing the Koran. To them Catholicism is all about opposing abortion and homosexuality. But this isn't true. It's also about the Real Presence and Propitiatory sacrifice and the Council of Trent.
Howard Dean performed abortions?
Simple. The sweep of history has seen the extent diminished to which an individual's thoughts, rights, and needs are subservient to the collective's. It was inevitable that some people, though not seeming to be extremists, begin to dogmatize radicial individualism.
I could be wrong, but I think I am correct.
For a frail old gentleman hovering at death's door, there is fire and truth in his words. He speaks to power.
His Church has been plagued with scandals. There has been a loss of faith on a massive scale--statistically measurable and observable--and a corresponding collapse of catechesis. He himself has called the breakdown of Catholic faith a "silent apostasy"--yet he does nothing to reverse the trends. Church attendance has continued to plummet. Vocations have continued to spiral downward. The missions have imploded. The seminaries have been increasingly lavenderized. The highest echelons of the Church seethe with apostasy and corruption. Cronyism is rampant. Yet despite all this, and for 25 years, the Pope has instituted not a single reform of any consequence. Nor need I even mention the heterodoxy on his part that has underscored all this--the scandalous indifferentism and syncretism that has punctuated his long pontificate.
and the homo-advocats will knash their teeth and pant and whine that they are note eeeeeevil.
Homosexual practitioners need to get a grip on reality and what causes what they do for orgasms.
Your thinking is muddled--not unlike the Pope's.
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