Heavens to murgatroid! It's Richard Gere, everyone run! Exit stage left even!! lol
Posted on 02/22/2005 12:46:48 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
Bigger and better, yuk. lol
Shows ya how wacked he was.
Sometimes it pays to speak where the bible speaks and be silent where it is silent, or else you wind up spouting this sort of venomous rhetoric that no one but the Devil can comprehend.
"If you doubt the Pope's teaching on matters of faith and morals, then you are a heretic, not just a schismatic"
This is a silly statement. Only EX CATHEDRA statements about faith and morals require our assent--and not all of these involve statements pertaining to revealed truths. One can't be a heretic unless one denies the latter. So you don't know what you're even talking about. The Pope, in fact, makes many statements about faith that aren't necessarily true--as when he writes in Redemptor Hominis that "Man is the path the Church must follow." Not Christ, mind you, but MAN. That is not an orthodox statement. At best it's ambiguous.
Since I have no guarantee that I will wake up alive in the morning, you may well be correct.
But - to the point - the church will not survive - in its present form and structure. If the world is to continue, then the Church will as well - but it will be differenct.
It's Lent. Suffer.
"Give the attacks a break .. or don't the SSPX schismatics celebrate this season any more?"
You need to quit the Catholic bashing.
"No mention of the growth in the Catholic Church, especially in 3rd world countries."
The discussion didn't involve any of that.
"He's pope in a world awash with with the philosophies of self-affirmation, self-assertion and independence."
Sounds all-American to me.
"Despite the secularism that has gripped the Western world, we are under his watch, as pontiff. He signed the Catechism that has given our faith such clarity."
That catechism has raised more questions than it has answered.
"His teachings have stood as signs of contradiction in the world."
Nobody can ever name the exact teachings the are referring to when they say things like this. Can you name just one? Pretty please? I've been asking this question for what, I think 5 years now. No one has yet provided an answer. Not one person.
"He has himself been the central attraction at events like the World Youth Day, and the Jubilee festivals that sparked so man initiatives throughout the Church."
Here you start getting fuzzy. "Sparked initiations? What does that mean? Like what, and what was accomplished?
"We learned how to be Catholics from this master and his words."
We did? Not from the rich history of available texts of the 2,000 years worth of saints and of the Church herself? Not from our good friends in the faith and from our parents?
Last week, from his hospital bed, the Holy Father said: "One must have confidence in life!"
This is... what, ...? The small business owners down at your local business park could have told you this. That's basic positive-attitude talk you can buy just about anywhere. Is there something Catholic about an incessant desire to be uplifted?
"Please take your misplaced screed somewhere else. It doesn't belong on a thread where the pontiff has upheld Church teaching with regard to Homosexual Marriage."
I don't think it's misplaced at all. I think it's completely goofing to start jumping up and down because someone condemned homosexual marriage. That's basic stuff; so basic that to see people get all excited about it kind of makes you wonder.
A real absorption of the Catholic Faith doesn't really lend itself to some cheerleader's kind of ra ra pom pom whoopie deal.
That kind of stuff, that's just an embarrassment.
But you're so good, and understand so much. I wish so very much I could be just like you. And then God would like me.
I didn't scroll down far enough. You beat me to it. lol!
Well, actually I live in San Diego. The church we go to has lots of young people AND, they are reverent when they go to receive Holy COmmunion.
Not ALL young people are going to Mass. But more and more are going. They are going to the Churches which are more orthodox, as well.
Our children range in age from 15 - 22. Three are in college. One goes to Franciscan University. MOST of the students at Fanciscan go the Mass - daily.
Look for the good in the Church.
You don't have to close your eyes to the evil in the church because I realize that it is there. But, look for the good.
Ping.
I will certainly agree that where more young people go to mass, there will be more orthodoxy present - to be sure. I know this well.
In this manner, God is preparing the Church of the future......which will be small, but fervent.
Ooooooh, that's real Christian.
You misunderstand greatly..........and I will say good naturedly that you do not know prophecy, nor scripture.
You do not understand that the Church must die, and be buried in the tomb - like her Master, before she can be resurrected more glorious then ever.
You do not understand - and I do not have the time to explain it all to you. Read. Learn.
You sound whacko pal, seek help.
You make complete sense.
If it weren't for your position on the Iraq War and the Church abuse you would be the greatest pope ever.
Good luck, the devil works in strange ways ...
Long live JPII!
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