[Dominick]

"Sentence first, verdict afterwards."
-The Queen of Hearts
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

There is no point, you are simply going to say, misquote and repeat parts of a larger text that are at odds with it's conclusion. Anything conflicting with your surreal and schismatic view of the Church is discarded, without any effort to find the Truth.

What is insufferable is that you are way off topic.

[saradippity]

Dominick is right and I should have stuck to my original gun which was that we all needed to deal with the subject of the thread.+

However,I must comment that your response to my query about invincible ignorance,while a little vague and ambiguous just as easily supports my position,thankyou.

[ultima ratio]

You both need to read my posts again and ponder them. Then ask yourselves--how does this fit in with Assisi? The answer is obvious: since JPII is a universalist, he sees no reason why he shouldn't offer other religionists our altars to pray at. He believes all men are united with Christ, so why not?

It's not enough to answer God loves all men. It's not enough to say Christ died so that all men might be redeemed. The message of Redemptor Hominis goes beyond that. It is that all men are united with Christ--each and every individual by virtue of simply being human, whether atheist or agnostic or Buddhist or whatever. Everybody.