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** Unauthorized Immigration To The United States (STAGGERING NUMBERS) **
Migration Policy Institute ^ | October 2003 | Elizabeth Grieco

Posted on 02/22/2005 5:05:20 PM PST by F16Fighter

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To: chris1
You must either live in a gated community away from where these people congregate or live in the mountains far far away. Otherwise, you would not say such silly things.

My guess is he posts from the Mexican counsulate, which is indeed gated.

241 posted on 02/23/2005 1:56:00 PM PST by skeeter ("A nation without borders is not a nation" RW R)
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To: bayourod
The fence in San Diego is working.

First it will reduce the flow to a trickle, that will make it easier to pick them up. Then they will stop, because it won't be worth the trouble anymore.

"Annual arrests of illegal immigrants in the fenced sections have dropped to 3,000 from about 25,000 over the past three years. It's so hard to get across that people aren't trying, say officials with Bureau of Customs and Border Protection, part of the Department of Homeland Security."

Crime drops off

"Violent crimes in that area have virtually come to a stop," San Diego police Sgt. Juan Gonzales says. "Where once there were hundreds of illegal immigrants, and they were preyed upon by smugglers and bandits, now we almost never see them or get reports of violent crimes at all."

fence

242 posted on 02/23/2005 1:59:54 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: bayourod

Ok, so now I am racist.

I have a problem with anyone, whether they be hispanic or otherwise, who comes here illegally, makes demands on this society financially, culturally, or socially, and contributes to the degredation of our language and social fabric.

Of course your neighbors assimilate into Southwestern culture - they are taking it over, don't have to speak English, and don't have to mingle with peoples of other backgrounds. Perhaps your personal experience has not been a negative one, but I assure you that you are not the norm.

You obviously are not a student of history and cannot see what is going on. We are being taken over not by force, but by mass migration without thew consent of those originally here.

If these illegals are only looking for work, why don't they go through the H1B process legally???????????????


243 posted on 02/23/2005 2:01:48 PM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: reelfoot
Our immigration policy is upside down: we are overwhelmingly letting in people with little education

Yes. And it used to be the other way around. And at one time I would have agreed with you.

But does it really help us in the long run if we import the cognitive elite of the world? It helps us but it hurts other countries, makes them susceptible to tyrants and revolutionaries that we will have to deal with farther down the road.

I'm thinking we should be more independent of the rest of world.

244 posted on 02/23/2005 2:06:27 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

My thought is that if people want to come here, they should at as minimum have the following:

1. Extensive criminal background check;
2. Work history with verifiable references;
3. Two financial sponosors who will financially guaranty the state's costs if the person goes on the doll or otherwise;
4. An immunization record;
5. Some skill or trade.
6. Demonstrate ability to converse in English


Absent that, we are importing low wage people who drive down wages for entry level jobs that used to go to uneducated American citizens.


245 posted on 02/23/2005 2:15:19 PM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: andrewwood
"There is something surreal about U.S. government spending vast amounts on hiring sky marshals, increasing airport security,at the same time as the southern border is effectively wide open, millions just pouring in."

Not only is the above "surreal" since 9/11, but it's compounded by the Bush Administration's attention to detail, the conviction, the man-power, and the committment of a quarter TRILLION dollars the war in Iraq for Iraqi security.

"American Security" for the United States of America? Bah, humbug.

It truly boggles the mind.

246 posted on 02/23/2005 2:21:56 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: janetgreen

"Very few real Republican conservatives exist anymore. Socialism/third world status here we come."

Yes. That's exactly what's in store for America.


247 posted on 02/23/2005 2:52:19 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: F16Fighter
Here is the bottom line.

Historically, Republicans received 33% of the Hispanic vote nationwide.
In the last election, President Bush received 44% of the Hispanic vote.
If President Bush had received 33% of the Hispanic vote in 2004, He would no longer be President Bush.

Simple enough for ya?

248 posted on 02/23/2005 3:01:30 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: paleocon patriarch
In the last election, President Bush received 44% of the Hispanic vote.

Here's a tougher one - if 66% of the hispanics entering the country (assuming the current rate remains constant) vote for the democratic candidate, how long will it be before the GOP becomes extinct?

249 posted on 02/23/2005 3:48:23 PM PST by skeeter ("A nation without borders is not a nation" RW R)
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To: skeeter

Darn it. Make that 56%, not 66%.


250 posted on 02/23/2005 3:50:13 PM PST by skeeter ("A nation without borders is not a nation" RW R)
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To: Dan Evans
What? Do you think that high home prices are a good thing?

Yes.

Home prices are high because corrupt California politicians are making it impossible to build homes.

Ridiculous. Come here and look around.
You know not of what you speak.

The rate of home ownership in California is about the lowest in the country.

Source?

251 posted on 02/23/2005 4:50:24 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Brad's Gramma
Why is that not fair?

Would it be fair to do a study of homosexuality in America and use San Francisco as your model?
I'm just saying that using Santa Ana as your example is EXTREME.

252 posted on 02/23/2005 4:52:43 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Rytwyng
Housing would be a lot cheaper if we could live wherever we wanted. But anti-white violence prevents that.

Perhaps it prevents you, but that's you.

253 posted on 02/23/2005 4:54:21 PM PST by PRND21
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To: bayourod; EagleMamaMT; janetgreen; spectre; azhenfud; All

Don't miss the current FR poll:

Which of the following is the best way to solve the illegal immigration problem?
Seal and militarize the borders
45.0%

Beef up and enforce existing law
39.3%

Some form of guest worker program
9.3%

Other
3.7%

Undecided/Pass

2.7%


254 posted on 02/23/2005 4:57:14 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: PRND21
Would it be fair to do a study of homosexuality in America and use San Francisco as your model?

Yes.

I'm just saying that using Santa Ana as your example is EXTREME.

I disagree. That city USED to be really neat. USED TO BE.

255 posted on 02/23/2005 4:58:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: azhenfud
Having gone through the immigration process legally it irks me that these illegals are here without any check on their health - a physical exam is part of the legal process.

No wonder the hospitals are full of them.

256 posted on 02/23/2005 5:00:34 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Brad's Gramma
That city USED to be really neat. USED TO BE.

Looks ok to me. Which part don't you like?

257 posted on 02/23/2005 5:03:14 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21

LOL!!!!!!!


258 posted on 02/23/2005 5:03:53 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: bayourod; chris1; All

" They "assimilate" very easily into out Southwestern culture."

Here's your "assimilation", bay. Why won't you talk about this article???


Bill seeks to prevent Colonias (Texas)
Corpus Christi Cller-Times ^ | February 10, 2005 | Tim Eaton

Posted on 02/10/2005 9:59:32 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

Developers would face new rules

AUSTIN - Third-world-like conditions that exist in Nueces County and other parts of South Texas in colonias could come closer to being eradicated if a new bill becomes law.

Sen. Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, D-McAllen, filed a bill Wednesday seeking to end the construction of colonias, which are underdeveloped neighborhoods which are usually past paved roads and in patches of land without municipal water and sewer lines.

"We have colonias with no running water, no drainage, no septic tanks. And when it rains, it floods," said Hinojosa, who represents Nueces County. "People cannot get out of the house. Kids cannot go to school, and you have health problems associated with this."

The bill's two-pronged approached would allow Nueces County to receive state and federal grants that have historically been reserved for border communities, and it would put demands on developers.

Under the legislation, developers must get a plat, a legal document approved by Nueces County commissioners, that includes a map of a subdivided property to ensure adequate roads, sewage, drainage, water and other necessities.

Senate Bill 425 is based on codes that have allowed Hidalgo County officials to force developers to meet accepted municipal standards for water, wastewater and solid waste, Hinojosa said.

And if Hinojosa's bill becomes law, developers won't find it as easy to take advantage of people with low income and create neighborhoods that look like third world countries with little economic development, he said.

State Rep. Vilma Luna, D-Corpus Christi, state Rep. Abel Herrero, D-Robstown, and state Rep. Gene Seaman, R-Corpus Christi, attended Hinojosa's news conference to show support for the bill.

Nueces County Commissioners Peggy Banales and Betty Jean Longoria also attended and thanked Hinojosa for his efforts.

"This will give us the teeth we needed," Longoria said.

Some of the available grant money that Nueces County could receive may help pay for cleaning up some of the roughly 50 existing South Texas colonias, according to Hinojosa's staff.

So, far Hinojosa's bill has not garnered any vocal opposition.





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259 posted on 02/23/2005 5:04:18 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: F16Fighter

I drive by at least 200 of them every morning.


260 posted on 02/23/2005 5:25:37 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya! Kill babies, Save the Bears!!)
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