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European Ban on Nazi Symbols Shelved
Yahoo! News ^ | 2/23/2005 | AP

Posted on 02/24/2005 9:00:12 AM PST by rightwinggoth

BRUSSELS, Belgium - The European Union (news - web sites)'s justice and interior ministers on Thursday shelved proposals to ban the use of Nazi symbols after failing to agree it could help fight racism and anti-Semitism.

Britain, Denmark, Hungary and Italy voiced concerns that a ban of symbols like the swastika could curb freedom of expression.

On the table was a proposal by Luxembourg Justice Minister Luc Frieden that rules to combat racism should include a ban "on displaying symbols inciting hatred and violence."

"The rules must not hinder the freedom of expression," Italian Justice Minister Roberto Castelli told reporters, but he added there could be room for a ban on racist symbols in soccer stadiums.

German Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries said the goal of any ban on the use of Nazi symbols, which already exists in Germany and Austria, "should only be used to fight neo-Nazis."

A ban on such symbols was dropped because of opposition, she said. Talks resumed instead to draft common rules to fight racism and xenophobia.

During the talks Thursday, officials said Frieden reiterated his call for countries to "act urgently" to agree on common rules to combat anti-Semitic and racist attacks.

Plans to ban Nazi symbols across the 25-nation EU have been highly contentious. They were suggested by German members of the European Parliament after photographs surfaced last month showing Britain's Prince Harry wearing a swastika armband at a costume party.

EU spokesman Friso Roscam Abbing said the bloc's Justice and Home Affairs Commissioner Franco Frattini suggested a European-wide ban might go too far and recommended the matter be left to national governments.

"They have their own past and histories," Roscam Abbing said, adding it would be "inappropriate" to ban all use of symbols like the swastika, especially in teaching history in schools or its use in movies.

Slovak, Czech, Hungarian and Lithuanian EU lawmakers also have called for communist symbols, such as the hammer and sickle, to be included if the swastika is banned.

However, officials said not one former Soviet bloc state that is now member of the EU raised a request that communist symbols be included in EU rules to combat racism.

The EU draft on combating racism said "public incitement to violence or hatred for racist and xenophobic purposes" be punishable with at least a two-year jail sentence.

Italy has been blocking a deal on the standards that would define what racism is and set out common aims to tackle it.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's conservative government includes the right-wing National Alliance, which fears its neo-fascist roots could bring it in violation of the new EU rules, if adopted. The party's leader, Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini, has been trying to rid it of extremists.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: austria; eu; freespeech; germany; nazis; swastikas

1 posted on 02/24/2005 9:00:21 AM PST by rightwinggoth
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To: rightwinggoth

A win for free speech and expression.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 9:02:43 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: rightwinggoth
The EU draft on combating racism said "public incitement to violence or hatred for racist and xenophobic purposes" be punishable with at least a two-year jail sentence

These EU thought Nazi's should reconsider a ban on the Swastika since they'll most likely be sporting one on their own arms soon.

3 posted on 02/24/2005 9:03:50 AM PST by cowboyway (My Hero's have always been cowboys.)
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To: rightwinggoth

Ah yes, just in time to make armbands for the next Bush protest.


4 posted on 02/24/2005 9:04:13 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: rightwinggoth

They might need'em when GWB goes back to visit Europe. (sarcasm off/) They wouldn't wanna have to arrest their own friendly protesters.


5 posted on 02/24/2005 9:04:17 AM PST by Calusa ( ... Oh, sweet Gaia, I'm gonna heave!")
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To: cowboyway
These EU thought Nazi's should reconsider a ban on the Swastika since they'll most likely be sporting one on their own arms soon.

No, it will be a hammer and sickle underneath the fleur-de-lis.

6 posted on 02/24/2005 9:06:53 AM PST by rightwinggoth
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To: Unam Sanctam
A win for free speech and expression.

You're not serious, are you?

These are the same people who "understand" Theo van Gogh's murder.

ML/NJ

7 posted on 02/24/2005 9:08:19 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: rightwinggoth

Swastikas and other Nazi symbols nay be banned in Germany, but at least you can fly the Confederate flag freely... *g

8 posted on 02/24/2005 9:37:40 AM PST by NCjim
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To: cowboyway
The EU draft on combating racism said "public incitement to violence or hatred for racist and xenophobic purposes" be punishable with at least a two-year jail sentence

There was also a push in Germany to ban sale of "Mein Kampf". Personally I would love to see the nazi's disapear from the face of the earth, but banning books and imprisoning people for speech has been done before, including by the nazis. It is a baaaad thing to do in any era.

9 posted on 02/24/2005 9:37:40 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: rightwinggoth

It will look more like a crescent and a star..


10 posted on 08/02/2006 1:13:33 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: rightwinggoth
The swastika symbol has been around long before the Nazis. I've seen it on statues of Buddha and on American Indian artifacts.
11 posted on 08/02/2006 1:20:05 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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To: pepsi_junkie
There was also a push in Germany to ban sale of "Mein Kampf".

< Mein Kampf is banned from sale in Germany.

12 posted on 08/02/2006 1:23:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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best seller in the middle east.


13 posted on 08/02/2006 1:25:47 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Keep Clam. There's nothing you can do about it anyway.)
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To: rightwinggoth

That symbol and Mein Kampf should never be banned, by any nation on earth that wants to remind it's people of the horrors of that war and what the Nazi's did to predominately Jews, but also to ALL people of Europe and Russia alike.


14 posted on 08/02/2006 1:27:03 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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