Guns, God and the American Flag - (Yankees & Southerners)

BACONS REBELLION.COM ^ | OCTOBER 6, 2003 | JAMES ATTICUS BOWDEN

[Budge]

Fun read ping.

[CHARLITE]

RE: "He discusses succession,..........."
Thanks for bringing the mental lapse to my attention, nothingnew. Of course, I meant "He discusses secession..!

Thanks again! Glad that so many of you like this article by James Atticus Bowden.

I was born in Baltimore, MD, and always heard about the Mason-Dixon Line. Never saw it, though, and even though I spent most of my life in and around Boston before coming to the L.A. area, I've always considered myself very southern. Of course, that could also be because my father was a dyed-in-the-wool N.C. tarheel individualist. He and his family referred to themselves as "mountain people," which was geographically accurate for the area near Fayetteville, where his folks had been living since the early 18th century.

Char :)

[FDNYRHEROES]

Also suggest this one by James Atticus Bowden. He discusses succession, but in a humorous tone. It is a lively thread!

This conservative Yankee from Massachusetts believes you meant to use the word secession, not "succession".

[campfollower]

Thanks, I'm partial to A&M myself (my in-laws all went there).

[DixieOklahoma]

"300,000 yankees learned that"

I hates the Yankee nation and everything they do, I hates the Declaration of Independence, too! I hates the "Glorious Union" -- 'tis dripping with our blood, And I hates their striped banner, and I fit it all I could.

I followed old Marse Robert for four years, near about, Got wounded in three places, and starved at Point Lookout. I cotched the "roomatism" a'campin' in the snow, But I killed a chance o' Yankees, and I'd like to kill some mo'!

Three hundred thousand Yankees is stiff in Southern dust! We got three hundred thousand before they conquered us. They died of Southern fever and Southern steel and shot, But I wish we'd got three million instead of what we got.

I can't take up my musket and fight 'em now no more, But I ain't a'gonna love 'em, now that's for sartain sure! I do not want no pardon for what I was and am, And I won't be reconstructed, and I do not care a damn!

ahh you gotta love the southern songs of the civil war.

full song at http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/3208/rebel.htm

[45semi]

"He and his family referred to themselves as "mountain people,"
which was geographically accurate for the area near Fayetteville,
where his folks had been living since the early 18th century."

Sorry to contradict you, I live in 'Fayette-nam'
(what Fayetteville was called during the Vietnam era,
due to so many soldiers from all over the country coming here,
then going straight on to Vietnam.)
Fayetteville is actually part & heart of 'The Sandhills'
The mountains are the far west of NC, then theres the 'Piedmont' which is east of the mountains,
and includes cities such as Charlotte,
then the 'sandhills' start just east of Raleigh, and continue on to the coast.

[DixieOklahoma]

actually, if you take out the democrat voter fraud and vacant lot registration wisconsin did vote republican in the last election. the roe effect has taken effect.

[Morgan's Raider]

There's a monument in the Cedar Grove Cemetery in Lebanon, TN which reads:

THE CONFEDERACY WITHOUT AN ARMY, NAVY, OR GOVERNMENT, 600,000 VOLUNTEERS SUSTAINED THE ASSAULT OF 2,778,304 MEN, SUPPORTED BY THE STRONGEST GEVERNMENT IN THE WORLD FOR FOUR YEARS. ITS DESTRUCTION RENDERED NECESSARY A PUBLIC DEBT OF $2,708.393,885, THE SACRIFICE OF 349,944 LIVES AND OF 1,366,443 PRICSONERS.

(Note: bad comma splices are as they appear in my source)

[CHARLITE]

By "near" I suppose that my father was referring to the western area where his ancestors lived. It was "near," compared to Baltimore. His parents had only recently come down to Fayetteville before he was born, but they were all from the mountains originally.

His paternal ancestors were English. His maternal people were Scots-Irish.

He spoke of all of North Carolina as "home."

Even after he established his business in Baltimore, "home" was still the whole state of N.C. He talked constantly of his early life to age 20, when his mother took the family to Huntington, W. VA. after his father died of typhoid.

So in my child's memory, it was all connected - Fayetteville, the mountain area in the far west of the state, and all of North Carolina. To the day he died in his mid-80's, he always called himself a tar heel. I proudly claim that I'm half North Carolinian, and that Scots-Irish fighting spirit is alive and well, even here on the left coast!

Char :)

[l8pilot]

Slavery, segregation and racism are wrong. They are sins against God

I don't know what Bible he is reading, but in looking in the book of Philemnon, it looks like the Apostle Paul returned a "fugative slave", and told the owner that because he was now a Christian, he would be of much more use.

[Stonewall Jackson]

Food for thought.

[Smokin' Joe]

YES!

[Smokin' Joe]

nope. You don't understand it from the beginning. You learn it at (and sometimes over) your mama's knee.

[Polybius]

Most people can't relate to the Battle Flag as the Cross of St. Andrew and do not know that it is also on the flag of Scotland. Scotland, in turn provided many of the orginal settlers of the mountain regions of the South. (And other areas as well, Fayetteville NC was originally Campbellton). Consider the never ending (still) hostility toward England by the Scots and you will begin to understand the Southerner.

The Declaration of Arbroath

[devolve]

AMERICA

AMERICAN TRILOGY

[dixiechick2000]

Two of the most beautiful songs, sung by
one of the most beautiful voices that God
ever placed on this Earth.
Thanks, devolve.

This is a wonderful article, CHARLITE.
Thank you for posting it.

[stainlessbanner]

dixieping!

[CHARLITE]

Thanks for reminding me of one of my older posts! You're right, it IS a wonderful article. I decided to bookmark it "for posterity." James Atticus Bowden, a Virginian, is a good friend of mine and a "great American," as Sean Hannity would surely call him.

I'm 100% southern myself - born in Baltimore, which was considered southern during the Civil War, but my upbringing was solidly N. Carolinian, as my very southern father was born in Fayetteville. I'm much more oriented toward the south and "all things southern," than I am toward the north where - as circumstances decreed - I actually spent most of my life. (Boston and environs!....of all places for a very conservative southerner. It wasn't easy being dominated by Kennedy politics for decades!)

Thanks for your "reminder" of this wonderful Bowden article.!

Cheers!

Char :)

[canalabamian]

We are conservatives based on convictions. We are not loyal to any Party, as much as to our Principles.

Excellent point.