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it is possible to insure all state residents with full coverage that includes medical, dental, vision, hospitalization and prescription drug benefits

The "Single Payer" monster rears its ugly head in California once more. It was defeated in the initiative process once before. Let's see if Governor Arnold is conservative or a RINO. FReepers need to be concerned about what happens in California as it represents approximately one seventh of the US economy.

Shiela Kuehl need to be FReeped. Now.

1 posted on 02/24/2005 4:59:35 PM PST by Nachum
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If you want to see just where this is leading- and what a Gawd-Awful mess it portends-- just click on this database keyword:

TENNCARE;

80 posted on 02/25/2005 12:14:32 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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Did I hear you say that the co-author of this piece of trash is none other than that veritable CHAMPION of 'Nanny-Government', State Senator Deborah (...I'm from the GOVERNMENT, AND I'm here to "HELP" you...) Ortiz...??? Isn't she the same Ortiz who has brought us so MANY wrong-headed bills, like her thankfully-failed attempt to impose a soda-pop tax to "keep people from getting fat"...???!!!

WHY am I not surprised...???

   
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(Please FReepmail if you want on, or off, this list. I certainly have no desire to increase anyone’s stress-level. Thanks!!!)

82 posted on 02/25/2005 4:50:19 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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SENATOR KUEHL ANNOUNCES INTRODUCTION OF SB 840 (Socialized Medicine for All Californians)

Tennessee was in good financial shape when they passed TennCare.

A few years later IIRC TennCare was taking up 30% of their budget and they had to get rid of it.

California is in debt and overflowing with illegal aliens... Gee, I wonder how this will turn out?

93 posted on 02/26/2005 3:17:28 PM PST by RJL
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According to the Lewin model, it is possible to insure all state residents with full coverage that includes medical, dental, vision, hospitalization and prescription drug benefits, and that is based on a high standard for quality, by streamlining the process of reimbursement.

I’m always amazed, where does America find people like the folks at Lewin?

With their plan, Lewin could have started their own medical company and almost everyone in California would have voluntarily joined.

Every single person at Lewin would have been far wealthier than Bill Gates and Sam Walton combined, but no, for the good of the public, they chose to only be paid a small amount for their plan and will allow the state of California to take the money and the credit. All hail the Lewin plan!

/Sarcasm

94 posted on 02/26/2005 3:36:19 PM PST by RJL
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This will NEVER happen because there is too much money to be made in the insurance and drug industries. It's so very easy to manipulate the drones into blocking this just by tossing out some buzzwords like Socialized Medicine.

Well I for one don't worry about it. Although I am uninsurable because I take Coumadin I don't worry aboutit. At some point we will reach critical mass and too many people will be uninsured and the system will collapse. THEN you will see this happen.

Conservatives are IN FACT the greatest allies to Single-Payer health care systems. They will oppose ANY reform that could stave off the collapse by calling in Socialized medicine and cry about waiting lists and rationing. (We have that now folks)

The longer you put off even modest reforms means the greater the corrective measures you have to take.

What's the number 45 million unisured Nationally now. Do we go to 55 million 60 million????

And remember about 50% of the population has some form of GOVERNMENT Heathcare NOW. OH MY GOD call FOX News and Rush! Yeah 50% of are either: over 65(medicare), Poor (medicaid/Medical), military, or federal/state employee.


95 posted on 02/28/2005 5:54:39 PM PST by Former Republican (You can't trust a Conservative with money! Borrow and spend, Spend and Borrow.)
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