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DIVERSITY IN THE CLASSROOM (A Liberal sees the light!)
Santa Barbara News - Press ^ | 2/24/05 | Camilla Cohee

Posted on 02/25/2005 8:16:55 PM PST by WindOracle

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To: WindOracle
Harding is 90 percent Latino, 6 percent white

Sure liberals, let them take over whole school districts while they're at it.

After all, it is "their" land that we stole from them, right?

< /sarcasm >

I know they're not all children of illegals, but many of them are. The American taxpayers are footing the bill for another country to infiltrate our schools.

Nice!

21 posted on 02/25/2005 8:48:30 PM PST by Bullish
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To: WindOracle

[You can read racism into this, but I read more of an issue of social class.]

Or you could be correct, and read it as an issue of government failure in public schools.


22 posted on 02/25/2005 8:53:44 PM PST by spinestein
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To: seastay
Congratulations. I recently pulled my son from public school and enrolled him in private school too. Would be nice if we had vouchers so other people who cannot afford it could have the choice in education we have for our kids. Unfortunately the poorer kids are captive to the liberal brainwashing centers.

Your descriptions of your experiences are all too familiar to us.
23 posted on 02/25/2005 8:54:22 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Well black is an ethnicity. Don't you know that Africa is one big homogeneous society?
24 posted on 02/25/2005 8:54:36 PM PST by BBell
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To: Bullish

"After all, it is "their" land that we stole from them, right? "

some of us and our families decided to build things like dams , power plants, roads, libraries hospitals, sewers, parks , malls and schools ect.. Others decided not to do these things . If those others who now claim this is land issue, why dont they squat in desert where the is oodels of land and they are free to build their own infrastructure? Somehow I don't think this is really a land issue.


25 posted on 02/25/2005 9:00:16 PM PST by seastay
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To: WindOracle

"Would be nice if we had vouchers "

yes I am for that, but that would make too much sense.


26 posted on 02/25/2005 9:01:52 PM PST by seastay
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To: Regulator
We never voted to have this happen to us at all.

In fact, prop 187 which passed by a whopping 60 some percent would have addressed some of the problem. Gray Davis shopped the prop off to the 9th circuit and it was struck down as un-Constitutional.

So much for the people of California having a say in their own destiny.

Thanks again, liberals.

27 posted on 02/25/2005 9:08:56 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Regulator

In Los angeles 40% of the students are English Language Learners Most, but not all of the English Language Learners are illegal immigrants or the children of illegal immigrants.

In 2003-04, about 305,000 LAUSD students were native Spanish speakers, about 94 percent of the district's students learning English as a second language. Their Academic Performance Index, is below average and they repesent 65% of the dropouts in the district and those who stay are are among the lowest scorers on the California High School Exit Exam. Only 53 percent of passed the math portion, and 57 percent passed the language portion. Compare this to the other students in the district, 85 percent passed the math portion and 88 percent the language portion.

The growth in the number of these students in the last dacade has doubled accounting for the district's entire population growth, according to the Department of Education.




28 posted on 02/25/2005 9:10:06 PM PST by seastay
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To: Kidan
Typical liberal.
90 deg. left of center in good times.
90 deg. right of center when it affects them personally
29 posted on 02/25/2005 9:10:51 PM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: BBell
This whole racial ethnicity thing is a load of garbage. Whites, Blacks, Orientals... whatever, cannot be categorized in such basic groups with any intellectual honesty.

I guess to some extent that is chickens coming home to roost, since it was pseudoscience embraced by Europeans that led to this wrongheaded thinking. They created racial theories to justify their imperialism over "inferior" races. Now that idea has grown into a mindset that will probably be impossible to eliminate.

The stupidity in this is exemplified by the fact that an Egyptian (classified black by many) very likely has much more in common, genetically, with with an Italian (classified white) than with a Zulu (also classified black). A Morrocan African almost certainly has more in common genetically with a Hispanic from Spain, than native of Zimbabwe.

Racial classification is the ROOT of racism.

While our diverse backgrounds are a good deal of what has propelled this nation to it's status in the world, it is only because we assimilate, taking on good aspects of the cultures, while discarding that which is lesser. Those who refuse to assimilate, who wish to transform this into a copy of their own cultures, stand in the way of America continuing that rise to greatness.

"Diversity" and "Division" have the same word at the root... DIVIDE. People are not brought together by celebrating their "diversity", the ways they are different... they are brought together by emphasizing the things they have in common

30 posted on 02/25/2005 9:12:12 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: Bullish

"prop 187 which passed by a whopping 60 some percent would have addressed some of the problem. Gray Davis shopped the prop off to the 9th circuit and it was struck down as un-Constitutional."

Had the federal government carried out its responsibility to stop illegal immigration and addressed the issues of legal immigration, California taxpayers would not be facing the massive expense of providing thousands of new classrooms.


31 posted on 02/25/2005 9:12:50 PM PST by seastay
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To: WindOracle

"People are not brought together by celebrating their "diversity", the ways they are different... they are brought together by emphasizing the things they have in common"

yes!


32 posted on 02/25/2005 9:15:08 PM PST by seastay
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To: seastay

The harm done to us is so egregious that the federal govt. doesn't even want to talk about it.


33 posted on 02/25/2005 9:16:16 PM PST by Bullish
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To: WindOracle
I've got the same problem, to a lesser degree. I live in posh Montgomery County, Maryland, which is one of the collar counties of Washington DC. The liberal government here decided, some years ago, to inflict upon the residents a social experiment: they mandated that any development with more than 65 housing units had to have "moderate income" housing. For "moderate-income" read "welfare recipients." This means that our subdivision, which has both middle-income and doctor-lawyer neighborhoods, also has many residents who are crackheads or are too drunk to send their children to the neighborhood school in the morning.

More and more white families are trying to send their kids to private schools instead of the fine new community school, but there really aren't many private schools around here--it's a bloody long commute to a private school in the morning, even if you can afford it. If you can't come up with an extra $50,000 per year to send two children to private school, like me, your kids will not have many friends in the public school.

My son, now finishing fifth grade in an increasingly dark neighborhood school, adores the school and his teachers but hasn't made many friends. The friends he's made have been black, not Hispanic. The black kids are Americans and share our values and interests. The Hispanic kids try to beat him up because his hair is blonde and his eyes are blue. Some of the kids are very nice, but again, as in the article, we just don't have much in common. My kid rides horses and does historic reenacting for a hobby and lives in a house full of antiques; his parents are an editor and a scientist. What's he going to have in common with these unfortunate children, some of whom live in shocking filth? They resent him, and I don't blame them. When we try to reach out to them they steal from us.

34 posted on 02/25/2005 9:22:18 PM PST by Capriole (the Luddite hypocritically clicking away on her computer)
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To: WindOracle

I once had the word 'diversity' defined for me in a business situation by a young black woman.
"It means," she said, "getting rid of all those fifty year old white guys."

Says it all.


35 posted on 02/25/2005 9:24:39 PM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Bullish

Remember when Clinton was in office, we had to fight for kosovo cause an ethic population was being displaced by another, and the human rights violations were too much for a country to stand by and do nothing? In the meantime families living in Santa An California for example were packing up and leaving for fear of their safety due to an illegal invasion to their community.

Or how about more people were killed in Los Angeles by gangs, fueled by the Mexican mafia than was killed in Beirut a few years back during a UN declared state of war... go figure?


36 posted on 02/25/2005 9:26:00 PM PST by seastay
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To: WindOracle; dormee; TaxRelief; Tax-chick; southernnorthcarolina; JohnnyZ

The flight is predictable. Public shools worked, for a while, when we had a common culture with shared values. The breakdown of our cultural values combined with a monopolistic government education structure drove the situation rapidly past the tipping point.

We currently have an interesting situation here in the greater Charlotte, NC area (Mecklenburg County) where Charlotte Mecklenburg Schools (CMS) is one of largest school systems in the country with over 100,000 students and chock full of every sympton of failed education. There is a CMS secession movement brewing in the suburban parts of our county. The story is likely to get bigger and begin to draw national coverage. Stay tuned!


37 posted on 02/25/2005 9:30:26 PM PST by Huber (Conservatism - It's not just for breakfast anymore!)
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To: Capriole
Reading articles like this make me thankful I live in rural s/w Missouri. The population is low enough here that I know, personally, just about anyone who has lived in the county for over about 5 years. Thus my son is not nearly so dependent upon being in this school in order to have numerous buddies who are. It is also a small enough community that I know the Sheriff, deputies, Prosecutor, judges, Public School administrators, and my own kids school staff, on a first name basis. Things have been changing here for the worse for several years, especially in the schools as well as local crime rate, as Tyson's brings more and more Mexicans into the county to do jobs that Americans are not willing to do.. at 1975 wage rates.
38 posted on 02/25/2005 9:30:48 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: Capriole

Sorry, what I meant to say instead of "Reading articles like these" and meant to say "Reading posts such as yours".


39 posted on 02/25/2005 9:32:28 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: Kidan
Its funny how she stands up for what she believes until all of a sudden it's affecting her.

just what I was thinking ...I've seen this syndrome for decades...people spouting off about what parents should do with their kids - until they have kids of their own , and then the light comes on

40 posted on 02/25/2005 9:33:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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