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Now Syria Is at the Top of the Bad Guys' League Table (Those rascally neocons again!)
The Guardian ^ | February 25, 2005 | Jonathan Steele

Posted on 02/25/2005 9:45:20 PM PST by quidnunc

Neocon pressure for regime change in Damascus is building up

In the world of the American neocons, salsa is not a sexy dance. It is in-group jargon based on the initial letters of a congressional bill which George Bush signed into law just over a year ago.

At the time, European chancelleries barely noticed the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act. If spotted at all, it was written off as ideological froth with little practical relevance. Even now, in spite of the international interest caused by Washington's accusations of Syrian involvement in last week's murder of the former Lebanese prime minister, Rafik Hariri, salsa has not got many European policy-makers jumping.

More's the pity, since the act increasingly looks like a key marker in setting the tone for Bush's second term. Don't be fooled by the president's visit to Europe this week. With its grand talk of a new era in transatlantic relations, the trip was designed to sound a note of reconciliation, like the earlier foray by the new secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice.

Washington understands European concerns about the need for multilateral consultation and more use of diplomacy, we were told. Even on Iran, where Europe clearly diverges from Washington, Bush put the soap on softly.

Welcome though these assurances on Iran are, they do not go to the heart of the matter, which remains the neocons' agenda for the Arab world and their support for the most hardline elements in Israel. Europe needs to be highly wary. What Bush does in the Middle East is more important than what he says in Europe.

Ariel Sharon and his Likud party have long seen their Syrian neighbour as a more direct menace than distant Iran, and the evidence suggests the Bush administration shares this view and has started to take action accordingly. Removing Saddam Hussein was the primary foreign policy goal in Bush's first term. The No 1 focus for regime change under Bush Two is Damascus, not Tehran.

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1 posted on 02/25/2005 9:45:21 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
The No 1 focus for regime change under Bush Two is Damascus, not Tehran.

Whichever domino falls next...

2 posted on 02/25/2005 9:49:30 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: quidnunc
Can't you already hear the chants from Syrians?  "We're #1!"  "We're #1!"
3 posted on 02/25/2005 9:50:12 PM PST by usgator
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To: usgator

LOL


4 posted on 02/25/2005 10:04:02 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: quidnunc

The loser-whackos still don't get it. It's one job at a time. Soon enough, the "president" of Syria will be kissing the earth at the bottom of his own personal mole hole. The Leftist media will be moaning still, until their end comes too.


5 posted on 02/25/2005 10:09:22 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: quidnunc

The Guardian seems to think it's either/or. I wouldn't want to be in Syria or Iran right now. We still have plenty of Shock & Awe to go around.


6 posted on 02/25/2005 10:12:49 PM PST by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: quidnunc
It's nice to know liberals finally have a meme they can sink their teeth into. By all appearances, "neocon" is a word that gets stupid liberals into a frenzied lather.
7 posted on 02/25/2005 10:14:55 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: quidnunc
"Welcome though these assurances on Iran are, they do not go to the heart of the matter, which remains the neocons' agenda for the Arab world........"

You mean democracy? The horror, the horror.

".......and their support for the most hardline elements in Israel."

Iow, the "elements" within Israel who'd like their nation to survive.

8 posted on 02/25/2005 10:18:15 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: DeFault User
I happen to agree, regime change in Syria is more important than in Iran.
9 posted on 02/25/2005 10:20:23 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: quidnunc

During Pres. Bush European Tour, I'm sure he had some "ideas & suggestions" for a few select allies. A window of opportunity may have just opened !

Perhaps something like ..........

"how about joining us, the USA, in a "peace keeping" mission in Lebanon, establish another presence in the Middle East, escort the Syrians back to Syria, (have a look-see around ??? maybe look for some Iraqi WMD's ???), make the Palestinians real nervous (and less demanding), give IRAN so much to worry about, It will have to comply with the "give up the Nuclear Weapons program you have", AND ....... maybe "draw" some insurgent terrorism away from Iraq, to help it get on track faster ???"

Neo-conservative pressure IS needed for regime change, IMHO.


10 posted on 02/25/2005 10:29:36 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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To: quidnunc

Next !!!


11 posted on 02/25/2005 10:31:45 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: quidnunc
This clown is full of bad advice; he must be working for Assad. A lot of these Euro-trash Lefties like to play like they're the lawyer for some despot if it seems likely to upset the spread of democracy and US principles. They need to examine their priorities.
12 posted on 02/25/2005 10:38:18 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: quidnunc

It's funny that people express shock at this.
I recall the specific words said by President Bush, and Secretary Powell, Secretary Rumsfeld, and Dr. Rice over and over again in the Fall and Winter of 2001.

There were two specific phrases:
(1) We are at war with all terrorist organizations of global reach, and the states that support them, and

(2) We will take them out "One stone at a time".

That was Rumsfeld's slogan "One stone at a time".

Given that we have been very consistently pursuing PRECISELY the strategy that Bush and his whole cabinet laid out in 2001 over and over again, why is ANYONE surprised that the Syrian regime is next up?

One stone at a time meant...one stone at a time, of course.


13 posted on 02/25/2005 10:59:18 PM PST by Vicomte13 (La nuit s'acheve!)
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To: DeFault User

Can I say "Amen"...!!!!!


14 posted on 02/26/2005 12:20:15 AM PST by Marshall1
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To: elhombrelibre; quidnunc
The Guardian-Fiske-Euro-twit position seems to be:

-Wanna remove tyrants by peaceful means? Don't do it.

-Wanna remove tyrants with war? No, do it by peaceful means of course.

Someone had it right on TV last night: Bush is interested in spreading democracy and freedom, the Eurons want commercial relations (easier with tyrannical regimes BTW, than with a free economy, look at their arms sales to China now).
15 posted on 02/26/2005 5:26:32 AM PST by beckaz
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To: beckaz
Remember in the 1980s the Left was always attacking the US for cozying up to authoritarian regimes as a bulwark against communism and for commercial interests? Now, the Left and, especially the EURO-Trash Left, are silent when their governments cozies up to authoritarian regimes as a bulwark against Bush, democracy, and for commercial interests.
16 posted on 02/26/2005 7:48:22 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Um, sure, but you know this is the Guardian, right? These are hard core commies. They know their priorities - defeat of the United States and eventual revolutionary overthrow of global capitalism. Every little socialist dictator out in podunk is one of their playing pieces on this board. We are the opposing player.
17 posted on 02/26/2005 9:33:19 AM PST by JasonC
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To: beckaz
No, they aren't interested in commercial relations. France has lost more from private US consumer boycotting than it will ever make trading with a poor basket case dependent on Russian handouts like Syria.

They are interested in power, and in the fact that we have it. This bothers them. They therefore insist that at least we never use it, as the next best thing to taking it away.

They try to bring this about by editorial blather, elections, and by giving as much cover as possible to determined enemies of the US. If that means terrorist nutjobs with nukes, fine. Their bottom line is the US should not have power and if it has any should not use it and if it uses it must use it only in the manner they direct. And they will say anything and do anything, up to and including helping nuts nuke Chicago, to get their way in the matter.

Commerce has nothing to do with it. Nor civilization. Nor morality. Nor sanity. It is an emotional matter about their existential inadequacy that only a sense of selfrighteousness and power can temporarily allay.

18 posted on 02/26/2005 9:39:40 AM PST by JasonC
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To: JasonC
I don't disagree with you, of course power is always in the pic and things are more complicated than my one-line re commerce.

But their damn commercial relations (usually about nukes or chems or weapons or airliners) certainly seem at the top of their agenda. Of course, that is also a way to wield influence (or power) with those sick regimes and to please powerful domestic lobbies AND to help somewhat their sick economies where many jobs depend on those mega-concerns (often state linked or sponsored).

The other thing I'd note is that being statists, the Eurons like to keep things on govmt-to-govmnt terms (economic, cultural, bla bla bla).

19 posted on 02/27/2005 4:45:02 AM PST by beckaz
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To: usgator
Can't you already hear the chants from Syrians? "We're #1!" "We're #1!"

No. It's being drowned out by the chants from Lebanon, "Syria, Out! Syria, Out!"

20 posted on 02/27/2005 4:47:23 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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