[AntiGuv]

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[k2blader]

59 years old...

[cripplecreek]

If I just read the headline I would assume that "cub scout leader" was the only thing he's done in his life aside from being a serial killer.

[marmar]

Does any one have a pic?

[NorCalRepub]

I see how they picked out the "cub scouts" to qualify this guy...."Boy Scouts aid, abate and harbor serial killer"

[cmsgop]

I'll Find Any Lost Dog Or Your Money Back!

[trumandogz]

This guy fit right into middle America. He could have been a neighbor, brother or coworker. Scary.

[prion]

most interviewed Saturday said the municipal codes enforcement supervisor was an unpleasant man who often went looking for reasons to cite his neighbors for violations of city codes

Kill him.

[deport]

Click

THE VICTIMS

» The timeline

» Mapping the killings

Joseph Otero, Jan. 15, 1974

Julie Otero, Jan. 15, 1974

Kathryn Bright, April 4, 1974

Shirley Vian, March 17, 1977

Nancy Fox, Dec. 8, 1977

Vicki Wegerle, Sept. 16, 1986

Photos are not available for the Otero children, who with their parents were strangled to death on Jan. 15, 1974.

Two other cases have been tied to BTK. They are Marine Hedge, 53, and Delores "Dee" Davis, 62. Hedge's death occurred on April 27, 1985, she was abducted from her home at 6254 Independence in Park City. Davis' homicide occurred on Jan. 19, 1991, the latest death now linked to BTK. She was abducted from her home a half-mile east of Park City. Both were found in remote locations.

Marine Hedge

Delores

[wizr]

If all of this is true. This man was not a Christian, or a leader. May the gates of hell open wide.

[mystery-ak]

A husband and wife and their 2 children plus 6 other women...I make that 10...why has there been no mention of these two children?........plus there are two more murders that he may have committed....

[F105-D ThunderChief]

Wasn't Howard Dean recently in Kansas?

[oceanview]

one of his neighboors on FNC now, saying he would harass single females in the neighboorhood by measuring the height of their uncut lawns and issuing $300 tickets. also harassed people about their dogs.

[occutegirl]

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-02262005-455955.html

[Selkie]

Looking at a list of serial killers worldwide, its kind of odd that UK and USA have the most by far.
Anyone have theory to explain this ?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers

UK
Beverley Allitt - The Angel Of Death. Paediatric nurse who killed 13 patients and injured others in 1991
Robert Black - schoolgirl killer
Ian Brady - one of the Moors Murderers, with Myra Hindley
John Childs - burned the bodies of his six victims, jailed 1980
John Christie - the necrophile, who lived at 10 Rillington Place
Mary Ann Cotton - British Victorian killer, said to have taken more than 20 victims
Thomas Neill Cream - the Lambeth Poisoner, began his killing spree in the United States before moving to London
Peter George Dinsdale - aka Bruce Lee, the prolific Hull arsonist
Kenneth Erskine - The Stockwell Strangler, jailed in 1988 for murdering seven pensioners
John George Haigh - The Acid Bath Murderer or Vampire of London
Myra Hindley - (d. 2002) one of the Moors Murderers, with Ian Brady
Colin Ireland - The Gay Slayer or Fairy Liquidator
Jack the Ripper - infamous Victorian killer
Michael Lupo - the so-called Wolfman, originally from Italy
Patrick Mackay - confessed to killing 11 people
Robert Mawdsley - serial killer of four. Killed three in prison and dubbed Hannibal the Cannibal
Peter Moore - businessman who killed men at random in Wales.
Donald Neilson - The Black Panther
Dennis Nilsen - British serial killer of 15 (possibly 16)
Mark Rowntree - 19 year old psychopath who killed 4 people at random
Harold Frederick Shipman - British doctor convicted of 15 murders. A later inquiry stated he had killed at least 215 and possibly up to 457 people over a 25 year period
John Straffen - child-killer and Britain's longest serving prisoner.
Peter Sutcliffe - the Yorkshire Ripper
Fred and Rose West - the House of Horrors murderers in Gloucester
Graham Young - The Teacup Poisoner, (1947-1990) who killed three




USA
David Berkowitz - known as the "Son of Sam"
The Boston Strangler - allegedly Albert DeSalvo, though disputed
Ted Bundy - law student who raped and murdered over 30 women in several states
Dean Corll - committed the Houston Mass Murders with Elmer Wayne Henley and David Brooks
Juan Corona - Mexican immigrant who killed 25 people in the space of just six-weeks
Jeffrey Dahmer - Milwaukee cannibal who kept heads, skulls and body parts in his apartment
Glennon Engleman - mediocre St. Louis dentist who shot and bombed his way to financial success
Albert Fish - sadist and pedophile who cannibalised a 12-year-old girl
John Wayne Gacy - the 'Killer Clown' who kept bodies buried under his Chicago home
Ed Gein. Elements of Gein's life and crimes have inspired, at least in part The Silence of the Lambs, Psycho, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Hillside Strangler - actually two men, Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono, Jr.
Leonard Lake and Charles Ng - ex-marines and survivalists who collected female slaves
Derrick Todd Lee - aka the Baton Rouge Serial Killer
Eddie Leonski - the Brownout Strangler
Henry Lee Lucas - confessed to hundreds of murders, although most confessions were false
Charles Manson - found guilty of planning murders and ordering a group of followers to execute his plans, although he was not proven to have been present during any of the murders
Herman Mudgett, aka Dr. H. H. Holmes, active 1890-1894, during Chicago's 1893 World Columbian Exposition.
Herbert Mullin - schizophrenic who killed people to prevent earthquakes
Earle Nelson - Necrophiliac serial killer dubbed "Gorilla Man"
Jesse Pomeroy - teenaged psychopath who killed two children
Dorothea Puente - killed and robbed nine elderly people
Richard Ramirez - the 'Night Stalker' who terrorized Los Angeles in 1986
Angel Maturino Resendiz - killed nine people in Texas, Kentucky, and Illinois
Gary Ridgway - arrested in November, 2001 for The Green River Killer murders
John Edward Robinson - so-called 'Cyber Sex Killer' who lured victims through the internet
Danny Rolling - pleaded guilty to butchering five students in Florida
Arthur Shawcross - the Genesee River Killer
Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate - "Natural Born Killers"
Otis Toole - Henry Lee Lucas's accomplice. Convicted of six murders in Florida
Jane Toppan - 19th Century nurse who killed over thirty patients
Coral Eugene Watts - killed dozens of women in Texas and Michigan
Wayne Williams - convicted of the Atlanta Child Murders, disputed
Aileen Wuornos - rare female serial killer who shot dead six men in Florida

[MHT]

Great--now the AP can bash the Boy Scouts and the Lutheran Church in one article!

BTW, Kansas did have the death penalty at one point because the guys in Truman Capote's In Cold Blood were hung in Kansas.

[Selkie]

Currreeeepy!
From the vault of BTKRader's greatest hits:

BTK Poem: 'OH, ANNA WHY DIDN'T YOU APPEAR'


Oh, Anna Why Didn't You Appear

T' was perfect plan of deviant pleasure so bold on that Spring nite

My inner felling hot with propension of the new awakening season

Warn, wet with inner fear and rapture, my pleasure of entanglement, like new vines at night

Oh, Anna, Why Didn't You Appear

Drop of fear fresh Spring rain would roll down from your nakedness to scent to lofty fever that burns within,

In that small world of longing, fear, rapture, and desparation,the game we play, fall on devil ears

Fantasy spring forth, mounts, to storm fury, then winter clam at the end.

Oh, Anna Why Didn't You Appear

Alone, now in another time span I lay with sweet enrapture garments across most private thought

Bed of Spring moist grass, clean before the sun, enslaved with control, warm wind scenting the air, sun light sparkle tears in eyes so deep and clear.

Alone again I trod in pass memory of mirrors, and ponder why for number eight was not.

Oh, Anna Why Didn't You Appear

BTK, 1979

[Private_Sector_Does_It_Better]

I found the killer's email address, i'd send him a message telling him that he's going to rot in hell, but something tells me he's not checking his email any more.

[gg188]

Report: Daughter of BTK suspect alerted police
59-year-old Kansan accused of killing 10
Sunday, February 27, 2005 Posted: 4:26 AM EST (0926 GMT)

WICHITA, Kansas (CNN) -- The daughter of the man Wichita authorities arrested as a suspect in the notorious BTK serial killings helped police capture her father by approaching them with her suspicions and voluntarily giving them a blood sample, according to a report Saturday by Wichita television station KAKE-TV.

KAKE quoted sources as saying the blood of 26-year-old Kerri Rader, whose father, Dennis, was arrested Friday, came back as a 90-percent match to the BTK killer, although they did not elaborate.

The sources told KAKE that police immediately began surveillance on Dennis Rader after the results were determined, leading to his arrest.

CNN could not immediately confirm the source's information.

Police said Saturday they plan to file 10 counts against Rader, 59, in connection with killings between 1974 and 1991 -- eight counts of first-degree murder and two other homicide charges.

Police would not comment on reports about the daughter, the station said.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/27/btk.investigation/

[Saundra Duffy]

Really creepy. The Lutheran Church?! Cub Scout leader?!

[Piedra79]

As serial killer cases become more well known and widely publicized it strikes me as odd that we as a society still are shocked when seemingly "normal" people are found to be serial killers. That is often makes these people so successful. Their public persona is often such that makes them so likable and so approachable and they would hardly deviate from the social norm, at least not publicly. So of course a serial killer from Wichita, KS is most likely going to be a churchgoing, family man. Anything that deviated from that greatly would have aroused suspicion long ago and this person would have been caught. Another thing, whether this man went to church is irrelevant. People who operate on the sociopathic level don't view morality as "normal" people do. Right or wrong is doesn't apply to them, they aren't immoral, they are amoral. But yes, he is a Christian in the same way a suicide bomber from the middle east is Muslim. Obviously such teaching didn't "take" to him but he was a regular church going person.