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Queen 'Thinks Charles Has Put Gratification Before Duty' (Jug Ears deserves sympathy, not scorn)
The Telegraph ^ | February 27, 2004 | Andrew Alderson

Posted on 02/26/2005 7:35:11 PM PST by quidnunc

The Queen has "distanced" herself from the wedding of the Prince of Wales to Camilla Parker Bowles because she believes that her son is putting personal gratification before duty, royal courtiers have disclosed.

The courtiers also say privately that the Queen is "lukewarm" about the marriage and is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy.

Buckingham Palace announced last Tuesday that neither the Queen nor Prince Philip would be attending the civil marriage ceremony at Windsor Guildhall on April 8 because they wanted to keep the occasion "low key".

The announcement, however, was widely interpreted as a snub even though the Palace said that the Queen and other members of the Royal Family would attend the service of dedication afterwards at St George's Chapel. The Queen is also giving a wedding reception at Windsor Castle.

The courtiers said yesterday that Prince Charles's private office had been outmanoeuvred by Buckingham Palace and that Sir Robin Janvrin, the Queen's private secretary, had tried to protect her from becoming involved in a "town hall marriage" which demeaned her own status. One said: "Robin is very clever. As soon as he sensed controversy, he did what he always does and wrapped the Queen in cotton wool to make sure that she didn't get damaged by events.

The courtier said that Sir Robin's intervention was symptomatic of the Queen's long-standing concern over Charles's relationship with Camilla.

"The problems of the past week go back many years. The Queen believes that the Prince of Wales has put his own gratification and interests before duty by pursuing his relationship with Camilla, and she can never forgive that."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: princecharles; royalwedding
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Like I said, Charles deserves atr least a little sympathy.

He wanted to marry Camilla from the start by was forbidden to do so because she wasn't a virgin.

How could she have been any worse for the royal family than the scheming neurotic, self-absorbed dingbat that he ultimately married?

1 posted on 02/26/2005 7:35:12 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

Diana was none of those things. She was a sweet girl. If she became neurotic, he drove her to it. How would you like to be married to someone who loved someone else and told that person he still loved her on YOUR WEDDING DAY??????


2 posted on 02/26/2005 7:40:25 PM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: quidnunc

I'm working up a little sympathy for him here. It looks as if the Queen gave him permission to marry Camilla and then, after he made the announcement, pulled the rug out from under him.

It's hard for an outsider to say who is at fault in a marriage. But I have to agree that, although Charles is not my favorite cup of tea, Diana could fairly be characterized as a dingbat.


3 posted on 02/26/2005 7:42:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: quidnunc
The Queen has "distanced" herself from the wedding of the Prince of Wales to Camilla Parker Bowles because she believes that her son is putting personal gratification before duty, royal courtiers have disclosed.

Indeed!

Contrary to the opinion of the poster, Charles revealed what a weak sicko he is when he (as a married man) was caught on tape whining to Camilla that he "wanted to come back as her tampon." What a creep! I certainly hope the Brits figure out some way that he never ascends the throne, or Britain will be the laughing stock of the world.

4 posted on 02/26/2005 7:43:45 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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the scheming neurotic, self-absorbed dingbat that he ultimately married

Bingo! Best description of her that I've seen to date. Should be repeated often.

5 posted on 02/26/2005 7:48:29 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: quidnunc

I'm not much of a "royal watcher", but it seems to me that Queen Elizabeth has always put her duty above all -- and most would find it a difficult task to emulate.

Certainly Charles is not in the same category.


6 posted on 02/26/2005 7:52:08 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Remember this: Jesus loves you and Allah wants you DEAD!)
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To: i_dont_chat

Can we all say King William..


7 posted on 02/26/2005 7:55:16 PM PST by Dog (FReepers-- - -- --- We are a battery of 80,000 bullsh*t-seeking missiles.)
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To: quidnunc

Call Diana what you will, she was a virgin with more British royal blood than his and he managed both to use her and destroy her long term.

If this is true about the Queen she has suddenly come back to her senses which have most usually been upright throughout her life.

She was part of refusing the American Wallis Simpson admission to Britain, why would she welcome this one unless it's because she's a Brit from a long line of family females who likewise "served" their Kings.

She would not likely have been on the throne but for the American--but then, Chuck has a lot in common with his flaky Uncle the former King.


8 posted on 02/26/2005 8:00:48 PM PST by Spirited
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"is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy."

Is there a way to tarnish the monarchy any more than they already have?


9 posted on 02/26/2005 8:15:29 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: quidnunc

Tell Liz to leave Charley alone! If she hadn't been such a blue-nose, he would have married Camilla in the first place and the whole Diana debacle would never have happened.

Hey Liz! You bear much of the blame for the situation.


10 posted on 02/26/2005 8:18:08 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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Charles, "did his duty". He married a woman he didn't particularly like to keep mommy and those silly-assed monarch-absorbed brits happy.

Perhaps it's time England moved past this archaic and expensive throwback to the middle ages.

11 posted on 02/26/2005 8:21:50 PM PST by jess35
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To: quidnunc

Points out the stupidity of the Royals - had Charles married Camilla in 1972, everyone would have lived "happily ever after" and Diana Spencer would be alive today and probably much better adjusted as a human being than she could have been in that spotlight.

And England would have been spared the soap opera/tragedy/disaster years of the Royal Family's last 2 decades.

(To change subjects totally), there is a similarity here with the Catholic Church's stubborn refusal to allow priests to marry (the banning of which caused the first major schism in the Church 1000 years ago - hence, homos have taken over (at least) the American priesthood, as it normal men do not find it particularly attractive given other options.

The truest Church to the original church traditions is the Orthodox Church (and this is said by an evangelical born-again Bible-thumper).


13 posted on 02/26/2005 8:22:29 PM PST by Al Simmons (4-time 'W' voter, 1994-2004.)
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To: quidnunc

"The problems of the past week go back many years. The Queen believes that the Prince of Wales has put his own gratification and interests before duty by pursuing his relationship with Camilla, and she can never forgive that."

Prince Charles should have (had he had a pair) told his Mum, years ago, to go back "Up the Palace", as Monty Python once put it.


15 posted on 02/26/2005 8:24:07 PM PST by Al Simmons (4-time 'W' voter, 1994-2004.)
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To: quidnunc
In return for a life of extraordinary privilege, wealth, and ease, is it too much to ask that a British heir to the throne should conduct himself in accord with good sense, manners, and basic morality? Apparently so, and Charles' weakness, follies, and faults may well bring the end of the Windors and perhaps even the entire royal anachronism.
16 posted on 02/26/2005 8:25:02 PM PST by Rockingham
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"...(the banning of which caused the first major schism in the Church 1000 years ago..."

Source?


17 posted on 02/26/2005 8:32:54 PM PST by rogator
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"Source"? Such a basic historical fact can be Googled even by a knuckle-dragging hairy Neandertal.

I'll spell it for you: G*O*O*G*L*E

You can find the rest. I'm not your teacher. You don't pay me enough for that.

:0)


19 posted on 02/26/2005 8:48:37 PM PST by Al Simmons (4-time 'W' voter, 1994-2004.)
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To: quidnunc

Does the Queen get to choose her own successor? Perhaps she could skip over to Prince William to take the throne.


20 posted on 02/26/2005 8:52:49 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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