Posted on 02/28/2005 1:36:19 AM PST by CarrotAndStick
Well put. It's not so sad that online spokesmen for India would be frustrated about our decisions with respect to Pakistan and the split. What's really sad (and revealing) is that they'll continue to justify India's love affair with Stalinists instead of pledging "never again." I wonder how closely this matches official Indian attitudes?
If I were Nepalese, I'd be very worried about Indian communists supplying the Maoist guerillas today. Maybe the problem isn't so "historic" after all?
We won the Cold War with the help of Pakistan. That's more than we can say for India. Now we have new problems. We'll have to deal with them, too. Where is India with respect to our war on terror, namely on Iraq? Don't answer, because I already know: useless if not worse. Just hating and wanting us to denuke Pakistan does not make a helpful strategy. As usual, India is looking out for itself and itself only. When India grows up and starts thinking about defending the freedom of the whole world instead of just its own people, then it can start criticizing the US. Meanwhile, it's just pathetic to see you ranting about Pakistan. But hey, I bet the Russians would keep working with you today if you ask.
Pfooey! The Northern Alliance were Afghan resistance fighters, armed and trained solely by the Russians and Indians, they had pretty much nothing to do with the US. In fact, the US was going wink-wink at the Pakistan in all the years the Pakistanis were Propping them up.
Make no mistake, the "Mujaheddin" later formed the Taleban that the Americans vanquished in 2001-02. And the Northern Alliance were pro-India, pro-Russia. Although I must admit that a few Mujaheddin did turn around to join the Northern Alliance. Can you be so naive to think that an army that had led to the fall of the USSR (Mujaheddin with US aid) could turn the tables and become friendly with their greatest foes, like how you suggest that the Mujaheddin became the Northern Alliance? A simple google search with "northern alliance russia india" will get you results from pretty reliable sites. Do try it.
No,I mean't Pakistan alone-take a look at the maps of Pakistan's frontier regions near Peshawar.
Ever heard of Mullah Mohammad Omar,the one-eyed creep??Gulbuddin Hekmatyar??Both of those folks weren't part of the Northern Alliance till 5 pm today & GWB is spending millions to finish off folks like them.
The Northern Alliance existed till November of 2001,because countries like Uzbekistan,Iran,Russia & India funded the disparate Shiite,Uzbek & Tajik militias which now compose the N.A against the Pakistani & Saudi backed Taliban.
It's so pathetic to see you try to justify your affinity with the Soviet Union during the darkest depths of the Cold War.
Affinity or whatever you call it we did what was necessary for our security. You find it pathetic? Chill.
It's also quite revealing of India's lack of moral clarity.
Moral clarity? What moral clarity did the US have when it supported a regime that carrying out a genocide? Oh yeah you were saving the "World" right?
Remember, favours must always be reciprocal.
& who will help India fight the terrorists who recieving funding & help from American allies like Pakistan,Saudi Arabia(who have just been offered PAC-3 missiles) or the UAE.If you forgot,It has been fighting the scum you face now for over 20 years.
About denuking Pakistan,well it's not my fault,that they use AMERICAN BUILT C-130s to fly nuclear parts all the way to North Korea & proliferate to international celebrities like Gadhafi.
I think that a lot of so-called developing nations have confused the expedient policy of corporatism with the systematic philosophy of capitalism.
The free market-left as unfettered as is humanly possible-will always produce better results than a command and control economy, both domestically and abroad.
Nixon's tilt towards Pakistan even as the latter killed about a million of its own citizens in East Pakistan would rank as one of the lowest points in the history of American diplomacy. And it was all unnecessary IMHO.
"What does the US call those folks now??" is the "Northern Alliance", who sided with us when we deposed the Taliban.
-----Wrong answer. The CIA trained the Mujahideens later joined groups such as Gulbudin Hekmatiyar faction, the Hizbul Mujaheedijn and of course the *TALEBAN*. Northern Alliance was armed and helped by Russia, India and Iran.
The second question:
If you dont like to answer the second question, let me help you.
who supplied Stinger missiles to those freedom fighters to take out Soviet helos & jets???"
*I was the US of A that supplied Stinger missiles to those freedom fighters to take out Soviet helos & jets.*
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jir/jir010315_1_n.shtml
India is believed to have joined Russia, the USA and Iran in a concerted front against Afghanistan's Taliban regime.
Military sources in Delhi, claim that the opposition Northern Alliance's capture of the strategic town of Bamiyan, was precipitated by the four countries' collaborative effort.
The 13 February fall of Bamiyan, after several days of heavy fighting, threatened to cut off the only land route from Kabul to Taliban troops in northern Afghanistan. However, media reports indicate that Taliban forces recaptured the town on 17 February.
India is believed to have supplied the Northern Alliance leader, Ahmed Shah Massoud, with high-altitude warfare equipment. Indian defence advisors, including air force helicopter technicians, are reportedly providing tactical advice in operations against the Taliban.
Twenty-five Indian army doctors and male nurses are also believed to be treating Northern Alliance troops at a 20-bed hospital at Farkhor, close to the Afghan-Tajik border. The Statesman newspaper quoting Indian officials said the medical contingent is being financed from Delhi.
Several recent meetings between the newly instituted Indo-US and Indo-Russian joint working groups on terrorism led to this effort to tactically and logistically counter the Taliban.
Intelligence sources in Delhi said that while India, Russia and Iran were leading the anti-Taliban campaign on the ground, Washington was giving the Northern Alliance information and logistic support. Oleg Chervov, deputy head of Russia's security council, recently described Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as a base of international terrorism attempting to expand into Central Asia. Radical Islamic groups are also trying to increase their influence across Pakistan, he said at a meeting of Indian and Russian security officials in Moscow. "All this dictates a pressing need for close co-operation between Russia and India in opposing terrorism," he said.
Military sources indicated that Tajikistan and Uzbekistan are being used as bases to launch anti-Taliban operations by India and Russia. They also hinted at the presence of a small Russian force actively assisting Massoud in the Panjsher Valley. "The situation in Afghanistan cannot be ignored as it impinges directly on the 12-year old Kashmir insurgency," an Indian military official said, adding that the Northern Alliance's elimination by the Taliban would be "disastrous" for India.
Nixon was cozying up to dictators like Khan and commie lords like Mao.
Note: Islamic fundies -- like Hekmatyar and the Mujahideen (you know the guys depicted as the 'good guys' in Rambo), the predecessors to the Taliban (who were also sponsored and created by our 'good buddies' the Pakis)
Kissinger chose short term gains at the expense of creating long-term headaches -- by cozying up to Pakiland and the Chicoms, he forced the republic of India to cozy up to China's other giant neighbor -- the USSR.
Ah, yes, Reagan. Isn't it funny how the Presidents the lib media call dumb were actually the ones who did the most for this country?
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