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To: razoroccam
Who granted China MFN status? It was Clinton. Talking with is different from selling out to. Anyway, Kissinger is a favorite whipping boy for the left. Besides, what control did Kissinger have over Wall Street, European, and Japanese business? Zero. His job was to work for international peace with an American advantage. Before the (bipartisan) transactions described in the Cox report happened, we did have a strong advantage over China - as Nixon left office. Why blame him for what the Democrats and even some Republicans have done since? It's a cheap shot.

The left always blames the Machiavellian choices America and its allies have been forced to make on some moral inferiority on our part. They always forget the forces with which we have been dealing -- and how hard they have been to defeat.

India just chose the wrong path, as expedient as it may have been. We've forgiven, but we sure haven't forgotten.

15 posted on 02/28/2005 3:02:08 AM PST by risk
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To: risk; razoroccam; CarrotAndStick

What you are talking is plane old B*LLSH*T!
Take a hike! We dont owe you any apologies for siding with the Soviets. We did what was necessary for our security. To me "Henry Alfred Kissinger" was/is a war criminal. As simple as that! It was he who had given Gen Yahya Khan the tacit approval of carrying out the sub-continents worst genocide. He is responsible for siding with a tyrant and has his hands soaked in blood of 20 Million Bengalis.

As a fellow Bengali I find it appalling that Henry Kissinger, a Jew, could side with a General who could carry out one of history's worst genocides.

Sorry but...... I wasn't India that chose the worng path of allowing Gen Yahya Khan to kill another 20 million more Bengalis. Whatever we did under those circumstances was perfectly alright to me. Big deal if America didn't like it. They couldn't stop us anyway.

And once again its WE who forgive you. You dont forgive US!


18 posted on 02/28/2005 4:23:35 AM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: risk; CarrotAndStick

Are you forgetting the authorised armssales to the PRC from the late 70s till Tianammen????If im not mistaken,Bill Clinton was a nobody back then & republican presidents held the White House for a good chunk of that period.Sales of items like torpedoes(check out China's current ASW torp),helos,LM-2500 gas turbines,avionics & dual use systems took place during that period.It was around the sametime that Deng XioPing realised the pathetic state of the PLA & saw the sore need for modernisation.So was the US & Europe(yep France,Britain,Germany all had their pies too) responsible in part for helping in the start of the modernisation of the PLA???It's something a lot of folks won't like to ponder over.


27 posted on 02/28/2005 8:06:10 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: risk

Kissinger chose short term gains at the expense of creating long-term headaches -- by cozying up to Pakiland and the Chicoms, he forced the republic of India to cozy up to China's other giant neighbor -- the USSR.


57 posted on 02/28/2005 1:49:24 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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