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Mel Gibson to follow up 'The Passion' with Fatima film
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Posted on 02/28/2005 1:28:36 PM PST by nickcarraway

Hollywood A-lister buys the rights to the book ‘Stealing from Angels'

Fittingly, just ten days after the death of Sr Lucia dos Santos, the last survivor to witness the appearances of the Virgin Mary at the Portuguese town of Fatima in 1917, Mel Gibson has bought the rights to the book ‘Stealing from Angels’.

Brian Dullaghan’s novel tells the story of a young Irish man who escapes a dreary life in his hometown only to slip into a life of major crime in New York. Everything changes when he meets Maria and he jumps ship again, this time to Maria’s hometown in Italy. However, blissful happiness does not follow and when the couple are connected to the murder of Pope John Paul and the third secret of Fatima, things really implode.

‘Stealing from Angels’ is a work of fiction that tells the tale of a man who shoulders a huge secret and trusts no one.

The third prophecy

Those familiar with the three prophesies revealed by the Virgin Mary at Fatima will be aware that the first two referred to the two World Wars and the third to the long kept secret that Sr Lucia ultimately revealed that foretold the 1981 attempt on Pope John Paul II’s life.

In 2000, when the Pope visited the shrine at Fatima, Cardinal Soldano, authorised to read a statement on behalf of the pontiff, described the prophecy: "the 'bishop clothed in white' makes his way with great effort toward the cross amid the corpses of those who were martyred. He too falls to the ground, apparently dead, under a burst of gunfire." Pope John Paul II credits the Madonna of Fatima with his survival following the assassination attempt by Turkish right-winger Mehmet Ali Agca in St Peter's Square.

‘Stealing from Angels’ has received rave reviews and is very popular in America, not least, in the same vein as The Da Vinci Code, because people can indulge their desire for church conspiracy theories – especially relating to the Catholic Church.

Mel Gibson’s interest will again stir up the controversy. Gibson is known to practice pre-Vatican II ‘traditional’ Catholicism and much was made amid ‘The Passion’ furore of his father’s Vatican conspiracy theories.

But let’s put this to one side. The film will not hit screens until 2006 and Gibson has proved himself an exceptional actor and director. He has also treated key figures in the Catholic hierarchy with respect and even sought their opinions ahead of the worldwide release of ‘The Passion of The Christ’.

Mel Gibson travelled to Fatima in September of 2003 to show the film to religious institutions. He visited Sr Lucia’s convent in Coimbra and managed to secure an agreement to show ‘The Passion’ to the sisters. Later, Gibson returned to Portugal and made another secret visit to the convent to meet with Sr Lucia.

One thing’s for sure; this film is destined to be a controversial box office blockbuster. But before the conspiracy theories get out of hand, not to mention individual reader interpretations, the author himself has the final say in an interview with The Tribune: “It’s a great story and that is that,” said Dullaghan.

Hollywood holds its breath…


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Mel Gibson meets Sr Lucia at a secret meeting in 2003

1 posted on 02/28/2005 1:28:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 02/28/2005 1:30:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

hmmm, I wonder if he is going reach out to the evangelical Protestants like he did with the Passion?


3 posted on 02/28/2005 1:31:06 PM PST by Jibaholic
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To: nickcarraway

> "the 'bishop clothed in white' makes his way with great effort toward the cross amid the corpses of those who were martyred. He too falls to the ground, apparently dead, under a burst of gunfire."

I'm sorry, but as prophesy goes... that's kinda lame. Very vague, and not too accurate. Rather applicable to a wide range of potential scenarios.


4 posted on 02/28/2005 1:31:49 PM PST by orionblamblam
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To: xzins; editor-surveyor; fortheDeclaration; Commander8
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Big Time Mysticism.......ECT.......messianics

5 posted on 02/28/2005 1:32:12 PM PST by maestro
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To: Jibaholic
hmmm, I wonder if he is going reach out to the evangelical Protestants like he did with the Passion?

If it's about a conspiracy to murder the Pope and the third secret at Fatima, I doubt Protestants will be interested.

6 posted on 02/28/2005 1:33:59 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: nickcarraway

What I would like to see MelGibson do is a true movie about the life and exploits of a true American heroe --
Captain America /aka Roy S.Moore,In a naiton in need of heroes I think Roy Moore fits the ticket.And I can't think of a producer/actor /director I could trust to do
an honest movie about the former Alabama Supreme Court
Chief Juctice.


7 posted on 02/28/2005 1:39:30 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: nickcarraway

I hope he does the film.

It is a great story!!!!!!!


9 posted on 02/28/2005 1:41:28 PM PST by atruelady
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To: nickcarraway

"One thing’s for sure; this film is destined to be a controversial box office blockbuster."

Maybe, but he just lost all of those millions of Evangelicals and Protestants who supported the Passion.


10 posted on 02/28/2005 1:46:22 PM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: nickcarraway

I thought Mel was working on 2 films already...one about Boadicea and the Romans...the second about the Maccabeas. Both sound great!


11 posted on 02/28/2005 1:47:13 PM PST by what's up
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To: Jibaholic

Why would evangelicals be interested in this film? This would really only be of interest to Catholics and curious outsiders (not saying it won't do good).


12 posted on 02/28/2005 1:48:12 PM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: orionblamblam

Dude, they are paraphrasing. Here is a translation of the original text from the hand of Sr. Lucia:

The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.

I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

http://www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/Third_Secret/Fatima.htm


13 posted on 02/28/2005 1:51:12 PM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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To: nickcarraway
Behold, the power of...

... cheese.
14 posted on 02/28/2005 1:51:38 PM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: NYer

Hmmmm.... any opinion on this? Smells like DaVinci Code Lite.


15 posted on 02/28/2005 1:51:44 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: nickcarraway

I think this is a great subject for a film


16 posted on 02/28/2005 1:52:06 PM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen")
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To: nickcarraway

Bump for later


17 posted on 02/28/2005 1:52:15 PM PST by el_chupacabra (I'm glad you were born.)
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To: nickcarraway
Hollywood holds its breath…

Nobody else will.

18 posted on 02/28/2005 1:58:06 PM PST by XR7
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To: nickcarraway

again Mad Max IV:Fury Road is pushed aside. Phooey I say, and grrrrrr.


19 posted on 02/28/2005 1:58:14 PM PST by isom35
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To: Jibaholic
hmmm, I wonder if he is going reach out to the evangelical Protestants like he did with the Passion?

A rhetorical question, I assume. But a good question. "The Passion" brought Catholics and evangelical Prostestants together, because it focused on the central event of Christ's life. He will lose a sizeable audience if he takes this rumored tact in his next movie.

20 posted on 02/28/2005 2:03:12 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: orionblamblam
I'm sorry, but as prophesy goes... that's kinda lame. Very vague

Kind of Nostradomus-esque. It could mean anything.

21 posted on 02/28/2005 2:06:37 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: nickcarraway

Mel is on Michael Medved show right now talking about the Oscars.


22 posted on 02/28/2005 2:14:48 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: nickcarraway

Hm, a fantasy movie?


23 posted on 02/28/2005 2:18:13 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: orionblamblam

That interpretation of the Third Secret is highly questionable...Many others believe that the Third Secret had to do with the breakdown of the Church prior to the Second Coming of Christ...but the powers that be in the Vatican have successfully scuttled it...


24 posted on 02/28/2005 2:18:51 PM PST by NATIVEDAUGHTER
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To: nickcarraway

YES!!!!!


25 posted on 02/28/2005 2:21:25 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Jibaholic
He did not attempt to reach out to evangelical Christians, the evangelicals reached out to him, being desperate to unite again with Rome.

Gipson never tried to hide his Romanist outlook, it was the evangelicals who were gushing over him, unconcerned with any doctrinal problems.

26 posted on 02/28/2005 2:24:09 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration

Protestants will always have doctrinal problems with Catholics. I liked the movie anyway.


27 posted on 02/28/2005 2:25:36 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: nickcarraway

He's really overthinking this. Just make quality movies about Jesus and the disciples, about Paul, etc. Retire a bazillionaire.


28 posted on 02/28/2005 2:25:56 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: nickcarraway

Drat. I would've enjoyed seeing the other project he was talking about (the Maccabean Revolt). Still, I give this movie better than even odds of being more entertaining than anything else that will be in theaters alongside it.


29 posted on 02/28/2005 2:26:48 PM PST by Buggman (Baruch ata Adonai, Elohanu Mehlech ha Olam, asher nathan lanu et derech ha y’shua b’Mashiach Yeshua.)
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To: My2Cents

If Mr. Gibson does the Fatima movie, it won't be for the purpose of bringing protestants and Catholics together. I don't think that was his aim, either, in The Passion of the Christ.

I think Mr. Gibson wants to make films about things he feels strongly about, and he's wealthy enough to do whatever he wants.

As a Catholic, I look forward to any films he makes about his beliefs.


30 posted on 02/28/2005 2:28:45 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh, that will be a BEAUTIFUL movie! So much better than if he had told the story of the Maccabees as the rumor had it. I have to read this book.


31 posted on 02/28/2005 2:30:56 PM PST by johnb838 (Need some wood?)
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To: k2blader
Protestants will always have doctrinal problems with Catholics. I liked the movie anyway.

You think so?

Not if they constantly compromise on them?

Did you like how Mary was portrayed in the movie?

32 posted on 02/28/2005 2:37:36 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: nickcarraway

Bump


33 posted on 02/28/2005 2:39:01 PM PST by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Judith Anne

Exactly, if the protestants don't want to see it, let them stay away. No one is going to force them to see it. If Mel Gibson wanted to make more money he could make another Lethal Weapon. No, he wants to make another "Caravaggio". I can feel it in my bones... this subject will look absolutely, stunningly beautiful on film... I can't wait.

The Sun Moved In The Sky! Of course you know that, but the others may not. Ten Thousand People witnessed it. But that's the thing about miracles... no matter how many witness one half will convince themselves they didn't see it and the rest of the world will disbelieve anyway.


34 posted on 02/28/2005 2:40:05 PM PST by johnb838 (Need some wood?)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I saw the movie only once, but I can't remember anything glaringly wrong with how Mary was portrayed. Obviously, Mel took a lot of artistic license with her character. What do you think?


35 posted on 02/28/2005 2:41:37 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: isom35

I'm just here for the gasoline.


36 posted on 02/28/2005 2:43:39 PM PST by notigar
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To: Buggman
Don't forget, all production companies like Gibson's Icon have multiple works in various stages of progress at any given time. Scorsese, for example, has at least three I know of; Peter Jackson's had at least two even while he wasworking on LOTR. For awhile Ridley Scott was going to film Crisis in the Hot Zone until that suddenly fell apart; then he was going to pick up Metropolis and THAT fell apart; and he took up Gladiator.

I'll believe he's working on a particular project when I hear it's actually started shooting.

37 posted on 02/28/2005 2:45:25 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Condi Rice: Yeaaahhh, baybee! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350654/posts)
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To: Judith Anne
As a Catholic, I look forward to any films he makes about his beliefs.

With all due respect, that's because he's inclined to do Catholic-friendly movies. The passion and resurrection of Christ appeal to all Christians, across the board, and is the essence of the gospel message. If he starts becoming sectarian, to make movies with topics that appeal only to Catholics, he certainly has the resources to do so (as you say), but he will lose a large segment of his audience. But then, maybe producing movies that have a particular Catholic slant to them is what he wants to do. More power to him -- it's his money afterall -- but all of the Protestants I know who lauded him for "The Passion" won't bother seeing his future movies if that's the tact he takes.

38 posted on 02/28/2005 2:48:05 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along moral lines, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: My2Cents

I agree, and I have no problem with that.


39 posted on 02/28/2005 2:50:50 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: nickcarraway

I'm not so sure what the reaction of Evangelicals to this will be. Suspicion, certainly. But Evangelicals might conceivably take an interest in it nonetheless, as outsiders, just as they take an interest in Jewish affairs.

I also wonder what Catholics will make of it. Will it appeal only to schismatic or "traditional" Catholics, by suggesting that parts of the third secret were suppressed, or will it also appeal to faithful Catholics who accept the Novus Ordo? And what about all the liberal Catholics and just plain Catholics who probably went to see The Passion?

It's clearly a very different kettle of fish from The Passion. But much depends on how Mel handles it.


40 posted on 02/28/2005 2:53:35 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I'm an Evangelical. My reaction is definitely skeptical. Also, I was wondering if most Catholics truly believe this kind of stuff.

In terms of planning to see the film, I probably won't, except to view it for reasons similar to why I went to see "The Day After Tomorrow".


41 posted on 02/28/2005 2:59:30 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Jibaholic; NYer

I was hoping Mel would put the Resurrection to film since it is universally held Christian dogma.

However, it's neat that he will film the Fatima story b/c it will drive the Follywoodites up a tree.


42 posted on 02/28/2005 3:00:11 PM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: streetpreacher
Why would evangelicals be interested in this film?

How about because it might be a good movie? I'm not a Christian, but I thought POTC was a great movie. Are Evangelicals only supposed to enjoy movies if they are Theologically Correct?

43 posted on 02/28/2005 3:05:47 PM PST by Hugin
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To: fortheDeclaration
the evangelicals reached out to him, being desperate to unite again with Rome.

Mel did indeed reach out to evangelicals. He specifically offered to pre-screen "The Passion" for various evangelical notables, and they pretty much universally commended both Mel and his movie. And it wasn't because they "are desperate to unite again with Rome," but because the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ are central to all Christian teaching. The Catholics don't have a corner on the death and resurrection of Jesus.

44 posted on 02/28/2005 3:07:41 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along moral lines, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: Cicero

Sorry; I can't let the general forum members read inaccurate info without setting the record straight. Canonically, the term schismatic would be better applied to the "faithful" Novus Ordo than to the traditional Catholics.


45 posted on 02/28/2005 3:15:17 PM PST by Bluntster
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To: nickcarraway
There have been movies made about Paul, Peter, and Jesus himself of the New Testament but I wish someone would make some movies of some of the major prophets of the Old Testament. I would love to see a good biblical movie about Daniel myself.
46 posted on 02/28/2005 3:18:10 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: My2Cents
Gibson wanted to have evangelical support (and why not-that is Rome's goal) but he never compromised on his Roman Catholic beliefs, it was the evangelicals who were willing to put 'doctrinal differences' aside.

I do not think portraying Mary as having supernatural powers, or part of the Passion had anything to do with the Bible.

47 posted on 02/28/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: nickcarraway

Mel Gibson is definetly on a mission - I applaud him for standing up for his Christianity in todays world - when Christians are at the top of the hate list. (Or is it conservative republicans, then Christians? Ha!) I am resentful he was not included more in the Academy Awards, but I believe the Academy was trying to be 'politically correct'. They sure as heck didn't want Michael, 'bleep bleep'Moore nominated, and I supposed the 'ying' of the 'yang' had to be discounted, too. Such a shame. Mel is one Hollywood figure I will stand behind ANYDAY!


48 posted on 02/28/2005 3:20:36 PM PST by Just Kimberly (In God WE Trust...lest we be lost)
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To: Jibaholic
WOW!

Mel is going to delve into fiction this time!

49 posted on 02/28/2005 3:21:59 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: My2Cents

I think that's bull, actually. This is a fascinating story, and people are interested in the Pope. Not to mention it being set against the backdrop of the meat-grinder of WWI... I don't think this story has really been done before either, and the Marian Apparition believers have never been more numerous. Throw in John Paul II, Reagan, communizm, a muzzl'em assassin, this is box office gold, IMO.


50 posted on 02/28/2005 3:23:30 PM PST by johnb838 (Need some wood?)
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