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How judge became target of hate (Lefkow killings)
Chicago Tribune ^ | March 2, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 03/02/2005 4:32:10 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182

U.S. District Judge Joan H. Lefkow originally ruled in favor of Matthew Hale and his white supremacist church when a trademark infringement case filed against the World Church of the Creator first came before her in January 2002.

But when an appeals court overturned Lefkow's decision and she tried to enforce the new ruling later that year, Hale became angry and plotted to kill her, a federal jury ruled last year.

The jury of six whites, five blacks and one Hispanic convicted Hale on April 26, 2004, of soliciting his security chief to murder Lefkow.

The security chief, Anthony Evola, was in fact an FBI plant in Hale's church who had secretly recorded their conversations.

On one of those tapes, recorded Dec. 5, 2002, at the church's headquarters in East Peoria, Evola is heard asking Hale, "We gonna exterminate that rat?" in reference to Lefkow.

Evola testified at trial that Hale leaned back in his chair with both hands behind his head and "nodded yes with a smile on his face."

"Whatever you wanna do," Hale then said on the tape. "My position's always been that I, you know, I'm gonna fight within the law. ... If you wish to, ah, do anything yourself, you can, you know?"

Hale then added: "So we're clear?"

"Consider it done," Evola said.

"Good," Hale replied.

The taped conversation took place one day after Hale sent Evola an e-mail asking for Lefkow's home address.

Prosecutors said Hale had targeted Lefkow because she presided over the case in which an Oregon church had sued the World Church of the Creator for trademark infringement..."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lefkow; matthewhale
Too early to tell if a Hale follower did the recent killings, but they are certainly a group with a grudge toward the judge.
1 posted on 03/02/2005 4:32:11 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Sounds more like entrapment to me.


2 posted on 03/02/2005 4:36:50 AM PST by evad
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To: Anti-Bubba182

"World Church of the Creator"

Definitely a religion of peace.

I guess the appeals' court ruling didn't 'play in Peoria.'


3 posted on 03/02/2005 4:38:41 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: evad

Like Marion Barry was entraped?


4 posted on 03/02/2005 4:40:06 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: evad
I don't think so in Hale's case. More likely the little weasel hoped the Judge would be killed by his follower and his attempt to say he personally wanted to pursue legal means was a feeble attempt to distance himself.
5 posted on 03/02/2005 4:45:31 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182; leadpenny

It certainly sounded like entrapment when I read the summary of the tape. The FBI agent asked Hale "We gonna exterminate that rat?", which is clearly entrapment. They can't do that. They have to wait for the suspect to initiate the discussion. They also have to give him possible outs like "Are you sure?", to establish intent. The part of the tape quoted in the article makes this case sound very flimsy.


6 posted on 03/02/2005 4:57:33 AM PST by billybudd
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To: billybudd
White supremacist Matthew Hale found guilty

"...In closing arguments, the defense contended that the undercover tape recordings showed that Evola repeatedly prodded Hale for approval to kill Lefkow.

But prosecutors said Hale got his message across to Evola to carry out the murder even though he spoke cautiously to give himself "plausible deniability."

The day after receiving the e-mail seeking Lefkow's home address, Evola, a Chicago security guard, traveled to Hale's headquarters in Downstate East Peoria on FBI instructions.

"We gonna exterminate the rat?" Evola asked in reference to Lefkow.

"Ah, my position's always been that ... I'm gonna fight within the law and but, ah, that information's been ... provided," Hale was quoted as replying. "If you wish to, ah, do anything yourself, you can, you know?"

"So that makes it clear," Hale added.

"Consider it done," Evola said.

"Good," Hale replied.

The two jurors said Evola's undercover recordings were critical.

Ultimately the debate came down to whether it was solicitation or entrapment on Evola's part, according to the jurors.

Hale is "a very intelligent man," one juror said. "This is a man who passed the bar exam. No one could make him say something he didn't want to. During those conversations, he never said no" to killing Lefkow.

"He liked to see other people do his dirty work for him," agreed the other juror. "But he never closed the door on anything....."

7 posted on 03/02/2005 5:13:24 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: billybudd

Is it "flimsy" just for Hale or for those who may be charged for the hit also?


8 posted on 03/02/2005 5:16:39 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: billybudd

Entrapment or not -- and I tend to think it reeks of it -- this little jerk is about to learn, the hard way, that instituting a terror campaign against a sitting federal magistrate is just plain stupid.

It offends me that the government could win a conviction using such a transparent entrapment device as was done in Hale's case, but not nearly so much as it does to think Hale or someone in his organization can stoop to this sort of "remedy".


9 posted on 03/02/2005 5:18:17 AM PST by thelastvirgil (Idiot-proof ANYTHING, and someone will build a better idiot.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; leadpenny
On one of those tapes, recorded Dec. 5, 2002, at the church's headquarters in East Peoria, Evola is heard asking Hale, "We gonna exterminate that rat?" in reference to Lefkow.

I don't have any other info about this case other than this article and my comment regarding entrapment is based on the fact that the first one on the tape to mention exterminating the rat is the planted agent.

There may be other evidence that implicates Hale and I'm sure he's a POS, but I'm just commenting on the substance of this particular article.

10 posted on 03/02/2005 5:26:28 AM PST by evad
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Since it seems that a white supremacist(how many times will the media refer to him as a conservative?)may be behind it this will stay in the spotlight. It's not like everything points to a minority or islamists, where it would have to be swept under the rug.
11 posted on 03/02/2005 6:16:31 AM PST by sticker
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I saw his mother on H&C last night, asking why he would try to kill the judge right before his sentencing...I dunno, lady. Maybe because your son is an idiot?


12 posted on 03/02/2005 6:27:54 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

If you've ever seen this guy Hale it does seem like he isn't that stupid. He has a law degree.


13 posted on 03/02/2005 11:37:51 AM PST by Borges
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Sorry Bubba and other Matt Hale sympathizers, but you don't have a leg to stand on. Hale had discussed harming the judge with other members of his group before his bodyguard taped the conversation quoted in part above. Furthermore, seeking her address was an act in furtherance of a plan. Testimony was offered at trial suggesting a pattern of Hale using other people to do his dirty work. (Some readers will recall that he apparently urged a follower to go on a shooting spree after being denied a law license in 1999. Nine people were wounded and two killed.) Entrapment requires that the government initiate the defendant's interest in committing a crime. The interest in killing Judge Lefkow originated with Hale.

The truth of the matter is that there was never any basis for Hale's animosity toward Judge Lefkow. She initially ruled in his favor in the trademark case. An appeals court overturned her ruling.

My guess is that people who share Hale's racist views will look for ways to exonerate him. But, to anyone else, he is not deserving of sympathy.


14 posted on 03/03/2005 4:57:44 AM PST by Jemima Gaines (Because someone should tell the truth.)
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To: Jemima Gaines
Sorry Bubba and other Matt Hale sympathizers, but you don't have a leg to stand on. Hale had discussed harming the judge with other members of his group before his bodyguard taped the conversation quoted in part above. Furthermore, seeking her address was an act in furtherance of a plan. Testimony was offered at trial suggesting a pattern of Hale using other people to do his dirty work. (Some readers will recall that he apparently urged a follower to go on a shooting spree after being denied a law license in 1999. Nine people were wounded and two killed.) Entrapment requires that the government initiate the defendant's interest in committing a crime. The interest in killing Judge Lefkow originated with Hale. The truth of the matter is that there was never any basis for Hale's animosity toward Judge Lefkow. She initially ruled in his favor in the trademark case. An appeals court overturned her ruling. My guess is that people who share Hale's racist views will look for ways to exonerate him. But, to anyone else, he is not deserving of sympathy.

*Sigh*. I haven't seen anyone on this thread who "shares Hale's racist views". Some people believe he was entrapped. Based on the portion of the tape shown here, it looks like it was entrapment.

I don't know if it was entrapment or not. You provided additional evidence that it wasn't, so maybe it wasn't. But wanting to make sure due process is observed is not the same as being in the defendent's corner on every issue.

Over on another thread there were people expressing qualms about the way Wichita cops got DNA from Dennis Rader's daughter. That doesn't mean they were supporters of Dennis Rader.

And just in case I didn't make it clear, I don't endorse Matthew Hale's views and would not have a problem with seeing him fry if he is responsible for this heinous crime.

15 posted on 03/03/2005 7:56:59 PM PST by murdoog
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To: Jemima Gaines
The truth of the matter is that there was never any basis for Hale's animosity toward Judge Lefkow.

That means there's even less of a clue at this point as to why and how the Judge's husband and mom were killed.

16 posted on 03/03/2005 8:03:20 PM PST by bvw (Team USA!)
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To: bvw

It's understandable that people would speculate along these lines, but still, we don't know yet who did it.


17 posted on 03/03/2005 8:07:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: EternalVigilance
The Greta Van S. show on Fox cover the case tonight -- she and a PI walked the scene while discussing the case (maybe Law and Order style journalism). I thought they did a good job of discussing it. Many many possibilities.

The initial focus on Hale is strange. The whole Hale thing is strange.

Most any criminal judge or prosecuter gets some significant threats at one time or another. The husband was a civil rights lawyer -- maybe ex-client, and four daughters maybe ex-suitors, unlikely but maybe hidden lifes, random killing, botched burglary, etc etc ... all possibiles

18 posted on 03/03/2005 8:16:30 PM PST by bvw (Team USA!)
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To: evad
That's exactly what it sounds like to me as well.Even though I despise most of his message I don't think he should have been convicted with such weak evidence.I also didn't think it was right for them to deny him from taking the bar exam to get his law license.At least he's open about his feelings which is more than can be said of many people of all races.
19 posted on 03/03/2005 9:35:06 PM PST by rdcorso (We Are A Nation Fighting Against The Deadly Disease Of Liberalism)
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To: rdcorso
Once again, the evidence in the conspiracy case was not weak. There were four days of testimony establishing the chronology of Hale's evolving plan to have the judge killed. Three of the key witnesses were lieutenants of his. Their motivation seemed to be mainly that they did not want to become involved in murder and spend more of their lives behind bars. (Many Creators have already done time. So, prison is not an abstraction to them. There also seems a correlation between having psychological problems and being involved in cults like this one. These are not folks anyone should be seeking to emulate.) One of the turncoats was angry because of the lax morals of the Creators. His 12-year-old daughter was impregnated by a fellow Creator.
20 posted on 03/08/2005 7:53:23 PM PST by Jemima Gaines (Because someone should tell the truth.)
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