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Kerry Urges Congress to Honor Communist
Human Events Online ^ | 3/2/2005 | by Daniel J. Flynn

Posted on 03/02/2005 2:10:48 PM PST by gidget7

-----Having learned nothing, Kerry now boosts Stalinist W.E.B. Du Bois

Why has John Kerry sponsored a Senate resolution honoring a Stalinist who championed racial separatism?

The Soviet Union awarded W.E.B. Du Bois the Lenin Peace Prize. Maoist China staged a national holiday in his honor in 1959. Now, for reasons unexplained, the Democratic Party's 2004 presidential nominee seeks to honor Du Bois too.

Kerry's efforts to honor Du Bois have been joined by fellow Bay State Democrat Ed Markey, who, along with more than three-dozen colleagues, has advanced a similar resolution in the House of Representatives. Both resolutions await floor votes. In addition to praising Du Bois as a "defender of freedom," Markey's February 17 proclamation bizarrely maintains that Du Bois--a longtime Socialist who officially joined the Communist Party late in life--played "an intricate role in the development of the entrepreneurial spirit" and "capitalism" among African-Americans.

On February 16, John Kerry promoted his Senate resolution, cosponsored by Democratic Senators Edward Kennedy (Mass.) and Carl Levin (Mich.), by declaring, "Dr. Du Bois taught us that the promise of freedom is honored through action." But Du Bois hated freedom, and through his actions of renouncing his American citizenship and joining the Communist Party he showed this. In writing longtime Communist Party U.S.A. Chairman Gus Hall in 1961 to become a member of his outfit, the reflexively anti-American intellectual called communism "the only way of human life" and predicted that the free market was "doomed to self-destruction."

The man whom some might call the Ward Churchill of mid-century America, Du Bois fawned over any totalitarian regime that opposed America--Soviet Russia, Maoist China, Imperial Japan, and even, after a trip there in 1937, Nazi Germany. Admitting that the Nazis had stamped out freedom, Du Bois nevertheless lauded them for having "a nation at work, after a nightmare of unemployment; and the results of this work are shown not simply by private profits, but by houses for the poor; new roads; an end of strikes and labor troubles; widespread industrial and unemployment insurance; the guarding of public and private health; great celebrations, organizations for old and young, new songs, new ideals, a new state, a new race." While condemning anti-Semitism, Du Bois called it "a reasoned prejudice" in Hitler's Germany.

Du Bois's position on American entry into World War II shifted from a pacifist stance during the Hitler-Stalin Pact to one of intervention after Operation Barbarossa. The Nazi attack on the Soviets, conceded Du Bois, "reorients all our thinking." After the outbreak of the Korean War, Du Bois contended in 1950 that "the North Koreans are fighting exactly the things for which Americans fought in 1776." Three years later, he eulogized Stalin as a "great" and "courageous" man, "attacked and slandered as few men of power have been." In his posthumously published autobiography, he called the crackdown on religion behind the Iron Curtain "the greatest gift of the Russian Revolution to the modern world."

What's to honor there?

Kerry correctly points out that Du Bois helped found the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. He omits noting that the NAACP kicked Du Bois out of the organization--twice. After writing in 1920, "Absolutely segregate the races and sections of the world," the author of The Souls of Black Folk boasted in 1933: "I fight Segregation with Segregation." This infuriated the NAACP's leadership, particularly when they learned of Southern segregationists' quoting Du Bois to justify the denial of New Deal relief programs to African-Americans. In the late 1950s, Du Bois would separate himself from Martin Luther King just as he had earlier separated himself from other legitimate civil rights leaders. "I do not pretend to 'love' white people," the NAACP founder declared in contrasting his position to King's.

How does all this mesh with Kerry's contention that Du Bois's "legacy of courage can be seen each time our nation voices our beliefs in equality, in justice, and most of all, in hope of a better tomorrow and a better America"? It doesn't.

In honoring this famous son of his state, it's doubtful that the intention of Massachusetts's junior senator is to endorse the ugly causes that Du Bois promoted during his 95-year life. But for Kerry to overlook the Harvard-educated intellectual's fervent anti-Americanism, his membership in the Communist Party, his softness on Hitler, and his opposition to the NAACP's integrationist platform clearly shows a large blind spot the senator has for extremists on the Left. During the '04 presidential campaign, the Democrats' cozying-up to Michael Moore, Move On, and other fringe elements cost John Kerry. His resolution honoring someone who preached so many despicable views shows he has learned nothing.

Ironically, both the honoree and the politician paying homage to him are guilty of the same transgression: failing to identify evil when it appears at close range.

From communism to eugenics to racial separatism, W.E.B. Du Bois was wrong on just about every major issue he championed. His admirers in Congress are wrong too.

[For more on Kerry's support of Radical Icons, click here.]


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 109th; antifreedomkerry; blackhistory; communists; dubois; gigolo; hanoijohnny; ichabodcrane; johnkerry; kerry; kerrycommunism; kerryisaschmuck; lurch; lyingtraitor; terayzasboytoy; thankyouswifties

1 posted on 03/02/2005 2:10:49 PM PST by gidget7
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To: gidget7

Hanoi John supporting Commies? Nah, say it ain't so.


2 posted on 03/02/2005 2:12:31 PM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: gidget7

Glad to see Kerry is still authoring cutting edge, vital legislation.


3 posted on 03/02/2005 2:15:15 PM PST by msnimje
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To: gidget7

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1354139/posts


4 posted on 03/02/2005 2:15:26 PM PST by Borges
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To: gidget7

So he wants to honor someone from HIS OWN Party. I agree, so what?


5 posted on 03/02/2005 2:15:28 PM PST by BurbankErnie (Borders... Language... Culture)
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To: HMFIC

Shocked, I'm totally shocked. This guy just won't go away. God, how close were we to this guy being president....scary...


6 posted on 03/02/2005 2:15:31 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: HMFIC

And the swift boat vets were a bunch of liars (Sarc).


7 posted on 03/02/2005 2:16:00 PM PST by exzoomie
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To: gidget7

Un___ blanking ___ believable!
It's frightening to think how close we came to having this guy as our president.


8 posted on 03/02/2005 2:16:34 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: gidget7
What else

would one expect from this slime ball!

Both he AND W.E.B DuBois can kiss my harry white... Well, you know!

9 posted on 03/02/2005 2:17:54 PM PST by Bigun (IRSsucks@getridof it.com)
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To: gidget7

Weird, considering the paucity of Kerry-initiated legislation.


10 posted on 03/02/2005 2:18:08 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: gidget7
Kerry's reason is racially motivated.
He's TRYING to score points.


11 posted on 03/02/2005 2:20:21 PM PST by onyx (Henry Kissinger: Asked if SoS Rice calls him, replied, "no never, she doesn't need advice.")
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To: gidget7

Kerry and his "... admirers in Congress are wrong too."


12 posted on 03/02/2005 2:21:36 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: gidget7
But Du Bois hated freedom, and through his actions of renouncing his American citizenship and joining the Communist Party he showed this. In writing longtime Communist Party U.S.A. Chairman Gus Hall in 1961 to become a member of his outfit, the reflexively anti-American intellectual called communism "the only way of human life" and predicted that the free market was "doomed to self-destruction."

sounds like just the kind of person Dums idolize. They especially like that renouncing citizenship thing. why do you think so many of them threaten to leave the U.S if they don't get their way. Sadly, they never follow through on their threats.

13 posted on 03/02/2005 2:22:44 PM PST by marty60
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To: gidget7; cyborg; PsyOp; Poohbah; nuconvert; All
I wish the eyes of America, and the world, could be opened to see the truth behind the Democrats. On every issue, from public development to race to fiscal responsibility to human rights, they always portray themselves as the good guys. The White Hats. And we conservatives are always likened to Luddites, regressive, xenophobic, destructive! I am so tired of Democrats always using obfuscation to make themselves appear lilly white, while they demonize anyone who has a modicum of opposition to any of their precepts. And thus I have been taking steps to try to do my part to change this vile equilibrium. Even though it is as simple as talking to friends, I have been doing it. And it has been interesting to note how easy it is to awaken people once you present them with facts (instead of blindly going on attack mode).

I think it is time we stop just sitting by letting Democrats paint themselves as social heroes while making us look like the dregs of society. For the longest time they have said all sorts of things, with the only response from Republicans being silence (in public) and a lot of mumbling (in places like FR where basically it is like preaching to the choir). It is time to say something if you hear a workmate state a fallacy clothed as fact, to say something when a friend says how Hillary would be a great president, to speak up when Kerry tries to honor someone who is against everything America stands for! And the key to doing this is by facts, not going ape and starting an argument. Democrats cannot counter facts, but they can easily counter an angry Republican by saying 'I told you these guys are crazy.' But give them facts and they slink off like the lowly serpents (actually worm is a better term) that they are.

But we need to stop being silent, we need to talk more in the open (and not just to ourselves), and we need to do this without losing our tempers. The Democrats greatest weapon is their obfuscation. And darkness and shadow will always be chased away by light and truth. But we need to speak up, and we need to do so in a way that will be listened to.

14 posted on 03/02/2005 2:22:49 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: gidget7
wrong headline... should read

Kerry urges Senate to honor fellow Communist

15 posted on 03/02/2005 2:22:52 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: gidget7
DuBois is an Uncle Tom who was just a house slave. /sarcasm

(I apologize in advance to anyone who I offended with my satirical comparison to Justice Clarence Thomas and Secretary of State Condi Rice. I didn't mean to cast aspersions on either Justice Thomas or Doctor Rice.)

16 posted on 03/02/2005 2:25:34 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: gidget7

Kerry should consider honoring Booker T. Washington, although he, unlike WEBD, was not from Massachesetts.


17 posted on 03/02/2005 2:27:13 PM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: gidget7

Let's see...A resolution honoring a commie. This must be F-in' Kerry's legislative program for 2005. Add this to the other 6 measures he authored over his previous 20 years in the Senate, and might actually break into a sweat this year.


18 posted on 03/02/2005 2:28:00 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: gidget7

If I remember right, the accomplishments of Kerry's 20 years as a Senator are most noted by his proposals for federal days off or Federal day name changes. He has really not done any real work in the Senate over 20 years. So this is the typical accomplishment he is famous for.


19 posted on 03/02/2005 2:30:01 PM PST by PureTrouble
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To: gidget7

It's obviously a provocation. He's hoping the Republicans will oppose this bill so they can be accused of racism.

Many blacks have heard of Du Bois but don't really understand the meaning of his beliefs. They just know he was a noble black man, because that's probably what they were told in school.


20 posted on 03/02/2005 2:31:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gidget7

"Why has John Kerry sponsored a Senate resolution honoring a Stalinist who championed racial separatism?"

Because he can? Because the idiots in MA have voted him back into office for 20+ years? Because no Reps have the b@lls to tell him to STFU?

Other than that, I dunno...


21 posted on 03/02/2005 2:34:07 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: gidget7

Just who is this john kerry anyway??? Was he the one who served in Vietnam or something like that??


22 posted on 03/02/2005 2:35:02 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for," - Howard Dean 01/29/2005)
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To: PureTrouble

Oh! you short-change him!

Don't forget his ground breaking legislation to rename a federal building in Lowell, MA, or some such place..


23 posted on 03/02/2005 2:38:45 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Cicero
It's obviously a provocation.

No, it's a reciprocation!

After all, Kerry is honored by the Communists in the "War Heroes Museum" in Ho Chi Min City.

24 posted on 03/02/2005 2:41:10 PM PST by Wil H
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To: gidget7

No surprise.

Du Bois hated America, Kerry hates America. Du Bois was a Socialist/Communist, Kerry is a Socialist/Democrat. So what's the problem here?


25 posted on 03/02/2005 2:44:21 PM PST by dmanLA
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To: HMFIC
"Hanoi John supporting Commies? Nah, say it ain't so."

Color me unsurprised.

26 posted on 03/02/2005 2:52:44 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: gidget7
Wot a marooon!


27 posted on 03/02/2005 2:58:00 PM PST by Chinito (We ARE the people our parents warned us about....)
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To: PureTrouble

Let's not underrate the amount of work Kerry has dome in the Senate.

He got his name on every piece of anti-gun legislation written in the past 15 years, voted for every tax hike in teh last 20, wrote legislation banning the importation of Samurai swords, shredded all documentation pertaining to sightings and other info of POWs and MIAs in Viet Nam, campaigned vigorously for Permanent Normalized Trade Relations with China and killed the Viet Nam Human Rights Act, which would have tied non-humanitarian aid to that country to measurable improvements in Hanoi's human rights record (so the blood is still pouring onto his hands)

Kerry has QUITE a "record" in the senate. Demanding that we honor a bloody communist traitor is just another feather in his cap.


28 posted on 03/02/2005 3:01:24 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: gidget7

Communist psychological warfare is now winning such extensive victories in the United States that the Red bloc will not need to employ direct military force against us in order to win the total war which they are waging, with this country the principal target. Edward Hunter, American expert on Communist brainwashing, warned in a consultation with the staff of the Committee on Un-American Activities.

Mr. Hunter, whose career as a foreign correspondent, author, editor, world traveler, and specialist in propaganda warfare, qualifies him as an authority on Communist propaganda techniques, stated:

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/Congress.htm


29 posted on 03/02/2005 3:03:44 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: mhking

Looks like a double-barrel to me!

Qwinn


30 posted on 03/02/2005 3:18:40 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: cake_crumb

Which Navy does Kerry claim to have been an ensign in? I recall that all officers in the US military (this was in the 1960s) went through the security clearance for at least a level of "secret". One of the questions I remember specifically asking organizations that you belonged to. The W. DeBois Society or something like that was on the proscribed list. Along with outfits like the communist party and the Abraham Lincoln society. Kerry's gone Alzheimers or its now really taken over.


31 posted on 03/02/2005 3:28:37 PM PST by kathy4500
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To: Borges

Hmmmmmmm I did a search too. Mods will remove one or the other I am sure. I don't know why it didn't show as already posted???


32 posted on 03/02/2005 3:39:48 PM PST by gidget7
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To: kathy4500

Kerry had better connections than most. His dad the ambassador, his mother the Winthrop Forbes and the Kennedy family, whom they're VERY close friends with. That's how he's got away with everything over the years, even committing treason.


33 posted on 03/02/2005 3:46:45 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: spetznaz

We definately need to stop being silent!! Let's all join Jim Robinson, who is trying to organize a march to address a lot of these things.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1354483/posts


34 posted on 03/02/2005 3:46:49 PM PST by gidget7
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To: cake_crumb

Yup, AND getting into, staying in, the Senate!!!


35 posted on 03/02/2005 3:47:45 PM PST by gidget7
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To: kathy4500

WEB DuBois Club
Abraham Lincoln Brigade


36 posted on 03/02/2005 3:57:22 PM PST by rahbert
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To: rahbert

Thanks. I'm getting those senior moments.


37 posted on 03/02/2005 6:29:25 PM PST by kathy4500
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To: gidget7


38 posted on 03/02/2005 7:01:04 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: jws3sticks

LMAO


39 posted on 03/02/2005 7:12:55 PM PST by gidget7
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To: gidget7; bear11; TapTheSource; John Lenin; DirtyHarryY2K
From the man who calls himself a Christan.
Honor the purveyors of system that caused death of hundreds of millions?
Great Article!
One for the archives.

" In his posthumously published autobiography, he
called the crackdown on religion behind the Iron
Curtain "the greatest gift of the Russian Revolution to
the modern world."

40 posted on 03/02/2005 7:15:27 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: gidget7; bear11; TapTheSource; John Lenin; DirtyHarryY2K
Kerry, Fonda, et al, Commies to the end:

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=4580

Surely Kerry can't believe this describes today's America. But if not, why has he decided to make the late Mr. Hughes the poet laureate of his campaign?

Just a few years before "America," Hughes wrote the most controversial poem of his career called "Goodbye Christ." Here are a few lines:

"Listen Christ/You did all right in your day, I reckon--But that day's gone now. . . .

". . .Make way for a new guy with no religion at all/A real guy named Marx Communism Lenin Peasant Stalin Worker ME--I said 'ME'" So "Go ahead on now/ You're getting in the way of things, Lord, and please take Saint Ghandi [sic] with you when you go. . ..Move! Don't be so slow about movin'!"

Kerry's decision to transform the title of Hughes' "America" into his apparent campaign slogan--as well as write an introduction to a new collection of Hughes' poems (will "Goodbye Christ," which Hughes repudiated in 1954, be among them?)--suggests the Massachusetts senator is still at one with the Left.
41 posted on 03/02/2005 7:29:35 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

The enemy within


42 posted on 03/02/2005 8:35:39 PM PST by bear11 ("Never interupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" John Milton)
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To: jws3sticks; All

43 posted on 03/02/2005 8:44:00 PM PST by bitt ("Conservatism is the dominant political creed in America,")
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To: gidget7
Grampa Kerry, tell me about Christmas in Cambodia again!
Did you really go to Cambodia! Well ummm, I uh, duh, how about I bounce you on my lap! weeee!
44 posted on 03/02/2005 8:51:29 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: bitt


August 23, 2004 -- WASHINGTON Disabled World War II hero and former presidential candidate Bob Dole demanded yesterday that John Kerry apologize for insulting Vietnam vets and ripped him because he collected "three Purple Hearts and never bled."

Dole's bombshell rebuke came after a group of anti-Kerry vets shot holes in his war-hero record claims in TV ads and the Kerry campaign ripped the riled vets as GOP operatives.

Dole lashed out at Kerry for disparaging Vietnam vets in 1971, when Kerry said U.S. troops raped civilians, cut off ears and razed villages.

"Maybe he should apologize to all the other 2.5 million veterans who served," Dole said. "He wasn't the only one in Vietnam."

Dole whose right arm is limp from wounds suffered as an infantry officer on the front lines in Italy more than a half-century ago lambasted Kerry as undeserving of the Purple Hearts.

"And as far as I know, he's never spent one day in the hospital," Dole said.

"I don't think he draws any disability pay. He doesn't have any disability. And boasting about three Purple Hearts when you think of some of the people who really got shot up in Vietnam."

Dole, a former Kansas senator, said Kerry brought the attack ads on by hyping his Vietnam service.

"I said months ago, 'John, don't go too far,' " Dole said. "And I think he's got himself into this wicket now where he can't extricate himself because not every one of these people can be Republican liars."

Kerry spokesman Chad Clanton said, "It's unfortunate that Sen. Dole is making statements that official U.S. Navy records prove false. This is partisan politics, not the truth."

In another development, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, whose two ads blasting Kerry's war record have rocked the presidential campaign, deny Democrats' claims that they're props for the GOP.

"Our message is our message and no one tells us what to say," Swift Boat vet Van Odell said on "Fox News Sunday."

A CBS poll shows Kerry's support among veterans has dropped 10 points since the group began advertising.
45 posted on 03/02/2005 10:42:58 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Dole has class. JF'nK is no JFK.


46 posted on 03/03/2005 4:18:22 AM PST by bitt ("Conservatism is the dominant political creed in America,")
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To: gidget7

Interesting. No description of the resolution number, no link. Doesn't come up on LOC/Thomas either. Anybody able to provide a link to anything other than the House concurrent resolution authored by Markey and 35 other house members?


47 posted on 03/08/2005 1:04:45 PM PST by write_on61
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To: gidget7

It appears the Bush administration has expressed its own "support" of this "radical icon" :

>>We see the greatness of America in those who have risen above injustice and enriched our society, a greatness reflected in the resolve of Jackie Robinson, the intellect of W.E.B. DuBois , and the talent of Louis Armstrong.<<

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030131-34.html

>>> W.E.B. Du Bois was a critic, editor, scholar, author, civil rights leader, and one of the most influential African Americans of both the 19th and 20th centuries.<<

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/africanamerican

>>> The writers of the Harlem Renaissance, whom we focus on today, celebrated their culture in poetry and prose while capturing the stark realities of being black in America. In committing their words to paper, they shaped a rich literary history and became agents of change.

W.E.B. Du Bois' character in The Souls of Black Folk captured the frustration of many with the words: "How does it feel to be a problem? I answer seldom a word."

[...]

The words of these writers opened us to the truth at a time when it most needed to be heard. <<<

http://www.whitehouse.gov/firstlady/news-speeches/speeches/fl20020313.html


48 posted on 03/08/2005 1:08:49 PM PST by write_on61
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To: DaveTesla

Well, George and Laura Bush certainly don't seem to have a problem recommending Langston Hughes to American readers:

>>This month, and throughout the year, let us celebrate and remember these stories, which reflect the history of African Americans and all Americans. We can all enjoy the works of writers like Paul Laurence Dunbar, James Weldon Johnson, Zora Neale Hurston, and Langston Hughes. <<<
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010201-2.html




>>White House Symposium on the Harlem Renaissance

"I, too, sing America.
I am the darker brother.
They send me to eat in the kitchen
When company comes,
But I laugh,
And eat well,
And grow strong.

Tomorrow,
I'll be at the table
When company comes.
Nobody'll dare
Say to me,
"Eat in the kitchen,"
Then.

Besides,
They'll see how beautiful I am
And be ashamed--

I, too, am America.

--Langston Hughes (1925)

The second in the White House Salute to America's Authors series, the Symposium on the Harlem Renaissance celebrated the diverse writers of this revolutionary time. The keynote address was delivered by Pulitzer Prize winning author David Levering Lewis. Following his address were two panel discussions.

The first panel focused on the historical and literary importance of the era and included Langston Hughes biographer Arnold Rampersad of Stanford University; <<<

http://www.whitehouse.gov/firstlady/initiatives/harlemrenaissance.html




>>Langston Hughes lamented the inequalities around him in I, too, sing America… and, in Harlem (2), he asked, "What happens to a dream deferred?"

The words of these writers opened us to the truth at a time when it most needed to be heard. For instance, in Hughes' poem "Freedom", he writes:

Some folks think
By burning churches
They burn
Freedom.
Some folks think
By imprisoning me
They imprison
Freedom.
Some folks think
By killing a man
They kill
Freedom.
But Freedom
Stands up and laughs
In their faces
And says,
No -
Not so!
No!

The Harlem Renaissance brought great change to American letters and it broadened the influence of literature and social commentary. <<<

http://www.whitehouse.gov/firstlady/news-speeches/speeches/fl20020313.html


49 posted on 03/08/2005 1:29:11 PM PST by write_on61
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To: DaveTesla

Sorry, forgot to mention Laura Bush's planned 2003 symposium honoring the works of Langston Huges. Would've been interesting, don't you think?

>>The Feb. 12 symposium on "Poetry and the American Voice" was to have featured the works of Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and Walt Whitman. <<

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/03/politics/main539048.shtml


50 posted on 03/08/2005 1:57:24 PM PST by write_on61
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