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Some heart recipients report strange changes
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 2/27/05 | Carla McClain

Posted on 03/03/2005 11:52:45 AM PST by Born Conservative

Say they sense traits, tastes of organ donors

For most of her life, the young woman hated sports.

And though she was born and raised in Tucson, she never liked Mexican food. She craved Italian and was a pasta junkie.

But three years ago, all that changed for Jaime Sherman, 28, when she underwent a heart transplant at University Medical Center, after battling a heart defect since birth.

"Now I love football, baseball, basketball. You name it, I follow it," said Sherman, a psychology student at Arizona State University. "And Mexican food is by far my favorite."

She'd heard similar stories - of people who get donor hearts, develop new and surprising tastes and traits, then trace them to the donor. It's an eerie phenomenon that has triggered controversy and skepticism.

Could it be happening to her?

No scientific evidence exists to explain how characteristics of an organ donor might live on in the person who gets their organ. But theories and speculation abound, from the transforming power of beating a death sentence to the notion that the body's cells store memory.

Some blame the toxic effects of potent transplant drugs and heavy anesthesia, while others cite the psychological trauma of knowing someone had to die to save a life.

But even the self-described skeptics admit there may be more to this than imagination, though they insist it happens to a minority of patients.

"It's highly controversial, but I don't exclude it completely," said Dr. Jack G. Copeland, UMC's chief of cardiothoracic surgery and head of the heart team that has performed more than 700 transplants in 25 years, including Sherman's.

Driven personality

Bill Wohl was a Type-A, overweight, money-obsessed businessman pursuing a jet-setter life - until five years ago, when he got a new heart at UMC.

Today, at age 58, he works part time and spends most of his new-found energy winning speed and performance medals in swimming, cycling and track. It's a passion matched only by the good he wants to do with his new charitable foundation.

And he surprises himself by crying when he hears Sade, a singer he'd never heard of - and a reaction unimaginable before his transplant.

For months after his February 2000 operation, Wohl was convinced he'd received the heart of some poor kid who died in a car accident.

"I was sure that was the scenario. No one tells you anything about your donor," he said.

For years, efforts were made to keep secret the identities of organ donors, so emotionally explosive was losing one life to save another. But now, they can write letters to one another or to surviving family six months after the transplant. The letters are transferred through the Donor Network of Arizona.

"So one day, six months later, there's the letter," Wohl said. "OK, it says I've got the heart of a 36-year-old Hollywood stuntman. I looked at his picture - at this incredibly good-looking, super-fit, super-athletic guy - and I thought, are you kidding me? That's whose heart I've got?"

Wohl's donor was a man named Michael Brady - who used the stage name Brady Michaels during his career as a stuntman for Universal Studios.

Specializing in aerial skydiving stunts, Brady appeared in action films, TV shows and commercials for Chevy trucks and Burger King. On the day he died, Brady was in Benson, preparing for a stunt in which he'd parachute onto the top of a moving train for the UPN daredevil show "I Dare You."

Climbing up the iron ladder on the side of the train, he accidentally fell, hitting his head and dying instantly.

"He was a very loving and caring son who loved God and cared about people …," Brady's parents wrote to Wohl, noting their son had done volunteer work with children and AIDS patients in California. "We fulfilled our son's wishes to donate his organs."

Wohl immediately responded and has since met the Brady family, becoming "like an uncle," he said.

At their first meeting, Brady's brother, Chris, brought a stethoscope and asked Wohl if he could place it on his chest.

"He said, 'Would you mind? I want to connect with my brother one more time.' So, of course, I said yes," Wohl said.

It was Chris who told Wohl the stuntman had loved Sade.

"That's when I said, 'Whoa,' " Wohl said.

"Is there some sort of connection possible? I don't know," Wohl said. "Some people think I've become more sensitive because of the ordeal I've been through. Or is there a very real part of Mike - of who Mike was - living inside me now?"

Strong resemblance

Jaime Sherman understands.

When she met her donor's family nearly two years ago, they kept staring at her, at first unable to speak.

"Finally, his mother said, 'You look so much like him,' " she said.

That's when she learned 29-year-old Scott Phillips - who died of a head injury after a fight at a Phoenix bar - was a sports fan who loved Mexican food. He played on several teams at Kansas State University and followed college and pro sports.

Sherman's metamorphosis from nonfan to superfan occurred well before she knew anything about her donor, though her obsession with Kansas State began after she met his family.

She recently dreamed she met Scott, too. "I went up to thank him, and he said, 'Jaime, I'm so happy for you.' I feel quite close to him," she said. "I know he was a wonderful guy."

Well aware of the speculation that traits can transfer from organ donor to recipient, Sherman accepts the concept.

"I'm a psychology major, and my professors will tell you it's all in your mind," she said. "But the scientists, the psychologists - they don't have someone else's heart beating inside them. I do. I have a very strong faith in God. And I am willing to believe there are things we cannot explain."

So are some other transplant recipients.

There is the ballet dancer, Claire Sylvia, who wrote the book "A Change of Heart" after her 1988 heart-lung transplant, when she developed unfamiliar cravings for beer, green peppers and chicken nuggets - foods she had disdained as a health-conscious dancer. After contacting her donor's family, she learned these were the favorite foods of the young motorcyclist who became her donor.

There is the 8-year-old girl who got the heart of a 10-year-old murder victim, according to medical reports. Plagued by nightmares of the crime after her transplant, the girl used the images in her dreams to help locate and convict her donor's killer.

No scientific explanation

Tales of post-transplant transformations have become the stuff of "medical jokes," said Copeland.

"Fiction," said Dr. Sharon Hunt, heart transplant surgeon at the Stanford University School of Medicine. "There is no science to explain such a thing."

But Copeland does not entirely dismiss the notion.

"With any solid organ, you are transferring DNA from the donor to the recipient," he said. "These are genes that relate not only to the specific organ, but to other systems as well, such as cerebral function. So there may be something to this thing that personalities can change."

But Copeland stresses the huge change a transplant brings to a person's life.

"They go from being a cardiac cripple, an invalid, to being a pretty active normal person again," he said. "We've seen all kinds of effects from that kind of change - people turn athletic, they get divorced, they get married, they have kids. They tend to take one day at a time and live life to the fullest. Whether that could be confused with acquiring the habits of your donor, or whether this is a real phenomenon, we don't know."

Others blame the potent anti-rejection drugs and steroids transplant patients must take. Or the "hospital grapevine theory" that says patients may hear hospital staff talking about donors while anesthetized. Or the brain effects of anesthesia itself. Or sheer coincidence.

"The combination of the post-transplant drugs and the pre-transplant trauma of nearly dying is a very heavy hit, both physically and psychologically," said Dr. John Schroeder, a Stanford cardiologist specializing in heart transplant research. People become a lot more emotional, they cry more easily, some even hear voices.

"Bottom line is, we don't buy the idea the donor is somehow emerging in the recipient," he said. "But it certainly is a mystery, and it's hard to put it all up to coincidence."

Perhaps most controversial is the theory of "cellular memory" or "systemic memory" - the idea that cells, or even atoms and molecules, contain the living being's memory and energy, which are transferred in a donated organ.

Proposed by University of Arizona psychologists - who also have studied near-death experiences and spiritual mediums - the theory was developed after studying 10 heart transplant patients who reported donor-related changes, including a male UMC patient who got a woman's heart, and soon was bothered by his new preference for the color pink and desire to wear perfumes.

"What happens to these patients is not just a personality change, but a targeted personality change," said Dr. Gary Schwartz, a psychology professor and director of UA's Human Energy Systems Laboratory.

"If this is the result of drugs, or stress, or coincidence, none of those would predict the specific patterns of information would match the donor."

There is no way to determine how many patients actually experience this because many never learn anything about their donors.

But most medical professionals - and even many organ- transplant recipients - find such accounts somewhat fantastical.

"The heart is a pump and no more - it is not capable of emotional transfer," said Patti Cook, 68, who got her donor heart at UMC in 1989, and is president of the New Heart Society, a statewide support group. "I've seen this stuff on TV, but I think some people need their 15 minutes of fame. I don't think the idea holds credibility."

It is the profound, all-encompassing gratitude to the donor - known or unknown - that may be at the root of this phenomenon, believes Nina Gibson, UMC's patient No. 583, who was given her new heart five years ago.

She knows her donor was a 21-year-old male who broke his neck while riding on the back of a motorcycle after a night of partying. She has no interest in motorcycles or anything that might be linked to a healthy, adventurous young man.

"But his family gave all of his organs that night, and several people are alive today because they did, in the midst of incredible trauma," said Gibson, 62, a psychologist who lives in Vail.

"The power of knowing somebody did that, and you are alive, is overwhelming. People have to make sense of that somehow, and they do it in very different ways," Gibson said. "All I can tell you is that I have never met this family, but there is a bond I have with their son that you cannot understand until you are at death's door."


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1 posted on 03/03/2005 11:52:47 AM PST by Born Conservative
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To: MoralSense; Mjaye; The Game Hen; Chesterbelloc; Petes Sandy Girl; MarMema; From many - one.; ...

2 posted on 03/03/2005 11:53:27 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Born Conservative
No offense, but this was already posted. On the 27th IIRC.
3 posted on 03/03/2005 11:55:11 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Born Conservative

note to self - refuse Michael Jacksons heart


4 posted on 03/03/2005 11:58:21 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Condor51

Do you have a link? I didn't find it when I searched.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=heart


5 posted on 03/03/2005 12:00:33 PM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Born Conservative

Um, maybe these folks all: (1) feel better with a healthy heart; (2) had a taste of death and now seek to enjoy life and value the important things in life, such as family; and (3) pursue healthy lifestyle and exercise because their doctors told them to do so.

Not to state the obvious, or anthing.


6 posted on 03/03/2005 12:06:51 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: MeanWestTexan
Once upon a time ancestors believed the heart did more than pump blood.
7 posted on 03/03/2005 12:10:17 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

They also thought the world was flat, the moon was made of green cheese, cargo pants were a good idea, and Jimmy Carter was a fair alternative to Gerald Ford.


8 posted on 03/03/2005 12:14:58 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Born Conservative
Sorry, my bad. (apparently)
I can't find one and I've searched under every key word that would relate to this. But I swear I read this article here on FR a few days ago?!?

hmmm, maybe I have precognition?
Or it's a case of "deja vu all over again." (Yogi Berra)

Again, no offense

9 posted on 03/03/2005 12:16:52 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Condor51

"For years, efforts were made to keep secret the identities of organ donors, so emotionally explosive was losing one life to save another. But now, they can WRITE LETTERS TO ONE ANOTHER"

How in the heck do they do that?

Through a psyhic?


10 posted on 03/03/2005 12:19:38 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

Sorry!

PSYCHIC!


11 posted on 03/03/2005 12:20:59 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Born Conservative

bump for later


12 posted on 03/03/2005 12:24:42 PM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Bigh4u2
That is pretty funny.
Especially considering that 'surviving family members' are mentioned second.
13 posted on 03/03/2005 12:27:59 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Bigh4u2

I am sure that they meant in cases of kidney transplants and such, where the donor is still living.

(Still, they REALLY could have made that more clear!)


14 posted on 03/03/2005 12:33:54 PM PST by small_l_libertarian (Snuggled back down into my cozy duvet of rage...)
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To: Condor51
No offense taken. And I believe you; sometimes, the same article is a different title.

Although I can't speak from experience (yet), I am skeptical that a recipient takes on the traits of the person who donated the organ.

15 posted on 03/03/2005 12:34:41 PM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Born Conservative
Interesting post. Reminds me of Rupert Sheldrake's theory about a "morphic resonance" in biology across space and time. Sheldrake was an "unorthodox" but credentialed biochemist and cell biologist. In 1981 the British science magazine, Nature described Sheldrake's book, A New Science of Life, as "the best candidate for burning there has been for many years," while the New Scientist called it "an important scientific inquiry into the nature of biological and physical reality." Decide for yourself.

Rupert Sheldrake interview (excerpt):

"DJB: In your book The Presence of the Past you offer the suggestion that memories are not actually stored in the brain, but rather they may be stored in an information field that can be accessed by the brain. If this should prove to be true, do you believe then that human consciousness, our personal memories and sense of self, may survive biological death in some form?

"RUPERT: Well, certainly the idea that memories aren't stored in the brain opens the way for a new debate or new perspective on the question of survival of death. Most people assume memories are stored in the brain, simply because this is the mechanistic paradigm that's very rarely challenged. There's hardly any evidence for memory storage in the brain, as I show in my book, and what evidence there is could be interpreted better in terms of the brain as a tuning system, tuning into its own past. So that we can gain access to our own memories by tuning into our own past states. The brain is more like a TV receiver than like a tape recorder or a video recorder.

"If memories are stored in the brain then there's no possibility of conscious, or even unconscious survival of bodily death, because if memories are in the brain, the brain decays at death, and your memories must be wiped out through the decay of the brain. No form of survival in any shape or form, even through reincarnation, would be possible in such a scenario. That's one reason why materialists are so attached to the idea of memory storage in the brain, because it refutes all religions in a two line argument. But, in fact, there's very little evidence they're stored in the brain.

"So if they're not stored in the brain then the memories won't decay at death, but there'll still have to be something that can tune into them, or gain access to them. So could some tuning system, could some non-physical aspect of the self survive death and still gain access to the memories? That's the big question. I regard it as an open question."

16 posted on 03/03/2005 12:38:16 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Born Conservative

I'm no doctor, but I speculate that these minor personality changes may be more likely due to micro-strokes.


17 posted on 03/03/2005 12:40:15 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Born Conservative
"Fiction," said Dr. Sharon Hunt, heart transplant surgeon at the Stanford University School of Medicine. "There is no science to explain such a thing."

These are the worst of doctors. If they can't explain it, it doesn't exist.

18 posted on 03/03/2005 12:40:48 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Revelation 911

Don't you want to play the piano ?


19 posted on 03/03/2005 12:58:39 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Born Conservative
"Now I love football, baseball, basketball. You name it, I follow it," said Sherman, a psychology student at Arizona State University."


Uhhh -- the Sun Devils made her do it?

Seriously, Jack Copeland is no slouch -- if he cannot dismiss it out of hand, there may be an element of truth to it.
20 posted on 03/03/2005 1:12:43 PM PST by NW Mike (Proud member of the VRWC since 1972 -- who the hell are you calling 'neo'?)
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