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SRJC uproar over Republican protest
The Press Democrat ^ | March 2, 2005 | GUY KOVNER

Posted on 03/03/2005 3:05:28 PM PST by Tamar1973

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To: Tamar1973
Ed Buckley, the college's vice president of academic affairs,. . . an e-mail to SRJC faculty that it includes teaching "difficult and controversial material."

Give it up, Ed. Your cover's blown!

No one believes your double-talk, anyway. If the standard were just some merely 'difficult and controversial', you'd be teaching that the earth is flat, and how bumps on people's head can help determine whether or not they are fit for service in the SS castle on the hill.

Along with communism, you'd teaching other tyranny, too. And you'd teach anti-communism, which I doubt you do - but really should!

Ed, no one's buying it, anymore. Give it up. If you want 'controversial' - then hold classes on the writings of Tolkien or 'Jack' Chesterton. If you want difficult, get into Tolkien's appendices. If you want more controvery, get Solberg's Debates and start teaching what happened when the country was founded. If you want complicated, try the Federalist Papers. If you want more 'controversy', consider the critics of the Court and 'judicial review', and so on, when you teach intro to Constitutional Law, assuming you do. And so on.

But don't try to con people, Ed. You're only conning yourself.

22 posted on 03/03/2005 3:57:14 PM PST by sevry
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To: Tamar1973
Giordano said, noting communism is not illegal and the U.S. Constitution is "indifferent" to both communism and capitalism.

Communism SHOULD BE illegal. And the Constitution is very clear. Private property, even to the extent that too many early ratifiers were willing to set the stage for war by claiming that people were property. Representative, unlike Commie dictatorships. Checks and balances, unlike Commie tyrannies of rigged courts, rubber stamp assemblies, and armies of Gestapo and secret police. Etc.

Perhaps this guy would run screaming from the room if someone pointed out something so obvious - NAH- NAH - I'M NOT HEARRRRRING YOU! AAAAH! And then he'd turn at the door, and Gollum-like, hiss and sneer, Racccissssst! Homophobe! I'll get you my . . etc.

I could be wrong. I wonder, though, if the kids going to this unfortunate backwater don't have such nightmares as they anticipate this guy's next quiz, and the basis or standard for his grading? I don't know.

23 posted on 03/03/2005 4:04:11 PM PST by sevry
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"Brenda Flyswithhawks, a psychology instructor, went further, calling for disciplinary action against students Molly McPherson and Danielle Carter for allegedly creating "an environment of hostility" with the postings."

Seems Ms. McPherson saw it as a "hostile teaching environment" before she put up the postings and decided to do something about it?


24 posted on 03/03/2005 4:15:04 PM PST by Smartaleck
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"It makes me a little anxious," philosophy instructor Michael Aparicio said.

Great - glad to hear it!!!!!!!

25 posted on 03/03/2005 4:20:29 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: sevry

The Constitution of the United States
Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.



That doesn't seem indifferent to communism to me.


26 posted on 03/03/2005 4:27:31 PM PST by polymuser
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To: Tamar1973

Excellent. Communism should never go unchallenged.


27 posted on 03/03/2005 4:49:54 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Grateful Heart Tour 2005)
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To: Tamar1973
"It's a big issue," said McPherson, president of the SRJC Republicans, a campus club. "The opinion of the far left is presented as fact, with no alternative."

Good for her! The protest is definitely encouraging news.

28 posted on 03/03/2005 4:55:13 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Tamar1973

I really like the idea of pasting stars on their doors.
Its so, slap you back.


29 posted on 03/03/2005 5:51:09 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Tamar1973

A hit dog howls. These jerks cry like babies when confronted by a law against indoctrinating their students in communism. That tells you everything you need to know about higher education these days. Good for these students who are paying huge bills and getting treated like dirt by these 60s leftovers.


30 posted on 03/03/2005 5:57:06 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

I just consider them "truth in advertising".


31 posted on 03/03/2005 6:05:11 PM PST by Tamar1973 (The path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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Hmmmmm? Sounds like the professors didn't like being challenged - too bad - it's way past time.

Sounds like the perfessers are intent on defending the notion that should have the right to indoctrinate students. Is this a public college, getting govt money>

32 posted on 03/03/2005 8:41:00 PM PST by feedback doctor (Mark Sanford and Condi Rice '08)
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Santa Rosa Jr College ... Hmmmmm? I don't know


33 posted on 03/03/2005 11:14:10 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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Is this a public college, getting govt money

Yes it is and it's probably getting a lot more than it deserves.

34 posted on 03/03/2005 11:55:37 PM PST by Tamar1973 (The path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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51530. No teacher giving instruction in any school, or on any
property belonging to any agencies included in the public school
system, shall advocate or teach communism with the intent to
indoctrinate or to inculcate in the mind of any pupil a preference
for communism.

In prohibiting the advocacy or teaching of communism with the
intent of indoctrinating or inculcating a preference in the mind of
any pupil for such doctrine, the Legislature does not intend to
prevent the teaching of the facts about communism. Rather, the
Legislature intends to prevent the advocacy of, or inculcation and
indoctrination into, communism as is hereinafter defined, for the
purpose of undermining patriotism for, and the belief in, the
government of the United States and of this state.

For the purposes of this section, communism is a political theory
that the presently existing form of government of the United States
or of this state should be changed, by force, violence, or other
unconstitutional means, to a totalitarian dictatorship which is based
on the principles of communism as expounded by Marx, Lenin, and
Stalin.


35 posted on 03/30/2005 2:09:55 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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