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The world's gone crazy! (A rant to end all rants)
Self (vanity) | 03/04/05 | Zionist Conspirator

Posted on 03/04/2005 11:04:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator

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1 posted on 03/04/2005 11:04:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

When did God get to be a dirty word?


2 posted on 03/04/2005 11:07:28 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Zionist Conspirator

you better put some ice on that.


3 posted on 03/04/2005 11:09:05 AM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Bookmark for later reading


4 posted on 03/04/2005 11:09:17 AM PST by RushCrush (I like America to some extent. -Michael Moore)
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To: sportutegrl; Alouette

Observant Jews will not even write the name of G_d lightly for fear that what it is written upon will be defiled. When I respond to the Jews on this board, I respect that belief and practice and do likewise.

(How did I do with the explanation, Alouette?)


5 posted on 03/04/2005 11:14:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
When I respond to the Jews on this board, I respect that belief and practice and do likewise.

Check your tagline.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

6 posted on 03/04/2005 11:18:56 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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7 posted on 03/04/2005 11:23:09 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: newgeezer

Yes, who are these g-ds anyways, with their holier than thou attitude?


8 posted on 03/04/2005 11:23:45 AM PST by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I completely understand your position. But while the opposite of liberal is conservative, the opposite of libertarian is authoritarian. I believe that many more people are of the libertarian view than either pure liberal, pure conservative, or pure authoritarian. I for one land firmly in the libertarian/conservative corner of the spectrum as I am for a strong military, traditional marriage, but I believe firmly that this world would be far better off if drug abusers were allowed to kill themselves off by legalizing drugs.

The problem lies as it did with the pharases and saduces of the era around the Roman occupation of Israel: the insistence of the obedience to the law to the tiniest degree leads to a worship of the law, not of G-d. You can either have obedience to G-d, obedience to the law, or complete lawlessness. Obedience to G-d will set your heart right and you will have the law written upon your heart and will not even want to disobey.

Unfortunately the liberals don't even believe in G-d, and believe that the laws shouldn't even apply to them.

Until there is the perfect world without sin, there WILL be laws and no matter how liberal they are, somebody will want to disobey them. Heck, the only law Adam and Eve had was, "Don't eat the fruit from that tree", and it was too much to ask of them.

Sorry if I rambled a bit.


9 posted on 03/04/2005 11:27:12 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: newgeezer

DOH! Oops!

Corrected.


10 posted on 03/04/2005 11:28:37 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Again, this does not mean that I advocate bureaucrats in every bedroom or cameras monitoring our activity 24/7 (G-d doesn't need cameras!).

God doesn't need police or judges, either. Being omnipotent, He has the power to compel all of us to do His will. However, He chooses NOT to. He instead grants us freedom of choice, even to do wrong or be self-destructive. Thus, God's attitude toward us is fundamentally libertarian.

God did not create government to try to bring about a morally perfect world; that will never happen. Even the numerous civil laws of Leviticus, etc., are not an exhaustive list of all possible sins; some moral wrongs are simply outside the realm of government.

11 posted on 03/04/2005 11:32:12 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

When did this become a libertarian forum? If it is, I'm off it!


12 posted on 03/04/2005 11:32:23 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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"Check your tagline. Tsk, tsk, tsk."

HA!!

Well, *someone* had to break the "bad news".

...to the old goat.

13 posted on 03/04/2005 11:32:27 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
People have a right to believe what they believe, and I certainly respect that.

But, as for respecting their actual beliefs, I look at it this way. (1) What did Jesus do? (2) If they believe theirs is the true and living God -- as I do mine -- surely their beliefs are impervious to assault. Thus, I'm not the least bit offended if someone doesn't respect my beliefs.

No offense intended, of course.

14 posted on 03/04/2005 11:45:24 AM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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To: sportutegrl

"Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord your god in vain" is not taken litely in Judaism, thus the reverence even in typing. Kind of like how Muslims write PBUA or whatever it is after Mohammed's name (same, except for the bloodthirty religion part...)


15 posted on 03/04/2005 11:48:19 AM PST by jcb8199
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To: Sloth
God doesn't need police or judges, either. Being omnipotent, He has the power to compel all of us to do His will. However, He chooses NOT to. He instead grants us freedom of choice, even to do wrong or be self-destructive. Thus, God's attitude toward us is fundamentally libertarian.

God did not create government to try to bring about a morally perfect world; that will never happen. Even the numerous civil laws of Leviticus, etc., are not an exhaustive list of all possible sins; some moral wrongs are simply outside the realm of government.

Every time man tries to elevate government to enforce God's will, bad things happen, because man does not have all of God's wisdom.

16 posted on 03/04/2005 11:50:53 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The Bible doesn't advocate socialism in any way, form, or fashion. It's all about personal responsibility. It doesn't say that life is "fair", quite the opposite. From the fate of your soul to size of your farm, the Bible leaves it up to the individual. You reap what you sow.

There's no conflict in advocating morality and laissez faire at the same time. One doesn't have to be a Biblical scholar to know that we should use morality as our guide. Indeed, God gave each of us a conscience - and that conscience is guided by morality and morality alone.
17 posted on 03/04/2005 11:51:45 AM PST by Jaysun (Ask me for a free "Insomnia for Beginners" guide.)
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To: jcb8199
"Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord your god in vain" is not taken litely in Judaism

It's not taken lightly in Christianity, either.

18 posted on 03/04/2005 11:58:03 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Jaysun
God did not create government to try to bring about a morally perfect world; that will never happen.

I'm afraid I disagree with the latter part of your statement, though I understand where you're coming from. The goal of history is the Kingdom of G-d (literally, not figuratively), when the evil inclination will be destroyed and all people will follow Halakhah. I suspect you have a different messianic belief from my own, but I just wanted to make this point.

19 posted on 03/04/2005 11:59:58 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (`Ad matay 'attem posechim `al-shetey hase`ippim?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
come to reflexively defend "the right to smoke"

The key word here is RIGHT. It's all about rights, rights that the left have no problem stripping away. Smoking is irrelevant, rights are not.

20 posted on 03/04/2005 12:03:09 PM PST by scottywr (The Dims new strategy..."If we lose enough elections, we'll get the sympathy vote.")
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