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America Sees China As Next Big Threat
Toronto Star ^ | March 5, 2005 | Stephen Handelman

Posted on 03/05/2005 9:31:55 AM PST by srm913

America sees China as next big threat `It's an open secret in Washington'

STEPHEN HANDELMAN

NEW YORK—If you ask a U.S. White House official or any of Washington's senior intelligence analysts what they consider to be the greatest long-term threat to U.S. stability, the answer might surprise anyone expecting to hear the by now traditional apocalyptic warnings about global terrorism.

The real danger, they would say, is China.

"It's an open secret in Washington," says Kishore Mahbubani, who was Singapore's veteran ambassador to the United Nations until last year. "The emergence of China as a potential rival is considered the next big threat to the U.S. — and China knows this, too."

China's had "superpower-in-waiting" status — partly as a function of the sheer size of its geographical reach, population (1.2 billion and growing) and the dramatic transformation of its economy — since the Cold War ended. But the slow, steady expansion of its military force has tipped the balance for anxious Washington geo-strategists.

It explains the bitter quarrel surfacing this month between the U.S. and Europe over whether to lift a ban on sales of military technology to China imposed more than 15 years ago, in response to the 1989 Tiananmen massacre. The U.S. wants arms sanctions to remain; the Europeans want sales to resume.

The quarrel is more serious than the transatlantic fireworks over Iraq. The Americans say the Chinese military build-up is already the most extensive in the world. They single out plans to build 23 amphibious assault ships, 13 attack submarines, and other upgrades in the navy and air force.

The Europeans agree that Chinese military expansion is worrisome; but they point out that blocking foreign technology sales will have only a marginal impact. Besides, they argue, keeping the Tiananmen-era ban in place because of a perceived new threat diminishes the credibility of sanctions.

Targeted countries will believe that nothing they do will ever get them off the hook, so why bother to pay attention? (Saddam Hussein's lackeys used to argue the same thing.)

But the U.S. has a point. China's military transformation, combined with its increasingly aggressive trade policies, is creating a new power dynamic in a region already anxious about rising Chinese influence from Japan to Taiwan.

And unchecked, China is likely to travel further toward projecting its military and economic power in the 21st century. U.S. Vice-Admiral Lowell E. Jacoby, in testimony before the U.S. Senate, predicted Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles will soon be "capable of targeting U.S. and allied military installations" in the region — and, by 2015, on the North American continent.

Skeptics argue that the Chinese "threat" is a fantasy. China historically has been loath to extend its influence beyond its region. The irony, however, is that as Beijing grows increasingly suspicious of Western intentions, it may back into a role as a rival, or hostile, superpower.

"Anywhere you go in China, officials believe 100 per cent that the U.S. bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during the Balkans war was deliberate," reports Mahbubani, who identifies the perception gap in his just-published book, Beyond the Age of Innocence: Rebuilding Trust Between America and the World.

As the title suggests, Mahbubani believes the U.S. needs to mollify fears about its own intentions — particularly in the emerging giants of China and India. The potential for dangerously crossed signals, he warned in New York recently, is far greater than the rivalry between Islam and the West.

"The U.S. needs to do much more to change its image overseas," says Mahbubani. That's good advice. Both the Chinese military expansion and the heated-up quarrel between Europe and Washington (Congress threatened this week to restrict technology sales to Europe) offer a way to put Ottawa's missile defence decision last week in context.

The critics who successfully lobbied for opting out of North American missile defence are congratulating themselves for keeping Canada out of a U.S. "space weapons" program and thereby avoid endorsement of Washington's terrorism-fixated foreign policy.

In fact, they may have knocked Canada out of the policy-making loop regarding Washington's deepest concern — of which the missiles represent just one strategic element: the struggle to cope with growing Chinese military and economic competition in the Western Hemisphere.

After the missile decision, Canada's ability to influence Washington over continental security issues, and by extension allow its voice to be heard on the Great China Question, may now have decreased.

That should bother anyone fearful for Canadian sovereignty.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; geopolitics; globalism; next; threats; trade; walmartsupplier
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1 posted on 03/05/2005 9:31:55 AM PST by srm913
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To: Dr. Marten; investigateworld

ping


2 posted on 03/05/2005 9:32:14 AM PST by srm913
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To: srm913

The easiest solution: Nuclear Japan. Australia, too, for good measure.


3 posted on 03/05/2005 9:35:06 AM PST by thoughtomator (National Socialist, Transnational Socialist, what's the difference?)
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To: srm913

I agree. We can handle the Islamofascists one more time, but China -- that's a biggie. However, China has always been too big to be efficiently governed and I would not be surprised to see it either fragment or collapse internally.


4 posted on 03/05/2005 9:43:01 AM PST by expatpat
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To: srm913
"The real danger, they would say, is China."

If they mess with President Bush they'll come to understand the meaning of "Bull in a China shop."

5 posted on 03/05/2005 9:48:18 AM PST by Enterprise (President Bush thought Wead was a friend. Turns out he was just a big fat tape worm.)
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To: srm913

I agree with this assessment. China has always wanted to rule the world. In fact, it's been part of their national character since it became a nation centuries ago.

Speaking of centuries ago, there was a three-pronged conflict of civilations back while the Holy Roman Empire was still in existance. The three civilizations were the Christian-influenced (then lead by Europe), the Islamic nations (lead by Turkey), and the Far East (lead by China). The Far East had an interesting strategy--wait while the Western and Islamic civilizations wore each other out in military conflict, seeking gradual control of their governments through economic dependence, and using the trade revenues to build up their own military and infrastructure.

There truly is nothing new under the sun.


6 posted on 03/05/2005 9:51:24 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: srm913

Well, duh. Remember, way back before 911 distracted us, they had our spy plane and wouldn't give it back?


7 posted on 03/05/2005 10:10:32 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Even Napoleon knew to let that dragoon sleep. I think our grandchildren will curse us for trying to bring China into the 21st century.


8 posted on 03/05/2005 10:10:52 AM PST by investigateworld (Another California Refugee in Oregon)
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To: Clintonfatigued
China has always wanted to rule the world. In fact, it's been part of their national character since it became a nation centuries ago.

We will need a 'wrap-around' alliance - with Britain, Russia, Japan and Australia -

I think we've all long known the day will come...

9 posted on 03/05/2005 10:12:44 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: srm913

BTW, maybe we ought to check out links betwwen China and al Quida, after all let's also recall that North Korea sent Yemen weapons and our Navy rapelled down onto the cargo ship in the Mediterranean just to demonstrate that it could? Asia no likey USA folks!


10 posted on 03/05/2005 10:13:49 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: srm913

I'm sure the pro Wal-Mart people here will disagree that China is a threat.


11 posted on 03/05/2005 10:14:32 AM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: srm913
Curiously enough, William Jefferson Clinton never saw China as much of a "threat."

He merely saw them as his pimp.

12 posted on 03/05/2005 10:17:41 AM PST by Liberator
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To: srm913
While White House is considered about the threat of China, I am considered about the disclosure of information by the Pentagon on sensitive projects. Chinese experts have studied about US military affairs in Iraq, and trying to learn to improve their military. While some information may be important for evaluation, there may be too much revealed in the public, such as counter-IED techniques that can alert not just the terrorists but also countries that may face US military in the future. Another threat is military exports planned from EU, Russia, and Israel. While US has no control over Russia, friendly fire from certain EU countries and Israel is critical for relations with the US. China seems to have interest in EU fighters as China feels that they are 15 years behind from US for technology of fighters. Russia have sold Vessels to China and is offering strategic bombers that can handle nuclear warheads for sale. US have shown concerns to Israel for attempt of selling drones (unmanned aircrafts) to China. Israel engineers also have been rumored for building components of J-10 fighter. Other than military exports to China, China also have built stealth FC-1 while having other plans of stealth fighters as J-12, new submarines and have plans building new vessels that may have use for Carriers. Another problem that have been recognized is the espionage from Chinese firms in recent years. FBI have called for US firms in public to provide any information on espionage against US firms from China that may help China to build on their military technology. It is said to be that Chinese students also have been involved in these espionage missions. While China will continue to improve its military on its own, restriction of foreign exports to China and secureness of information for military operations and technology of firms should keep the pace of China slower. Allied countries should be with US and stop any support to China.
13 posted on 03/05/2005 10:24:05 AM PST by Wiz
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To: srm913
Chinese specialists have also been aware of threats from United States. Reports from Chinese experts indicates that they may be threaten by United States Armed Force from East, West, and South. In the East, Taiwan and Japan will be the front line against China. United States have several military installations in the Far East region. In the south, operations to avoid transportation of Taliban and Al Qaeda are ongoing in India Sea. United States also have access to Diego Garcia Islands, at least for another few years. In the West, United States have military installations in Central Asian countries, such as Afghanistan. It may be important for the United States to continuously have access in the South and West to divide Chinese force for any chance of invasion. To counter any threats from the south, China have aided Pakistan for building sea ports in Pakistan that may have use for military missions. Relations between India may also be a key factor for US as India has problems with China about Kashmir areas in the east.
14 posted on 03/05/2005 10:33:44 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Jeff Head

Ping


15 posted on 03/05/2005 10:42:48 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: investigateworld

Thank Nixon, and Kissinger.


16 posted on 03/05/2005 12:18:29 PM PST by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: Clintonfatigued
I agree with this assessment. China has always wanted to rule the world. In fact, it's been part of their national character since it became a nation centuries ago.

With all due respect, but whence this idea that China has always wanted to rule the world? A more deliberately isolated, insulated society would be hard to find.

China considers itself "The Middle Kingdom", located between heaven and earth. In it's ancient psyche it has no need to conquer the world. What for? China, to the traditionalists, is the world.

Plus (to paraphrase a previous post) China is a huge country that has never been successfully ruled over from the center for any real period of time. It's history is filled with independent warlords, petty (and great) kingdoms, civil wars, etc. China isn't so much as stone as it is an iceberg.

17 posted on 03/05/2005 12:46:50 PM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Liberator
Curiously enough, William Jefferson Clinton never saw China as much of a "threat."

Neither did Nixon or Carter, if you care to remember.

18 posted on 03/05/2005 1:33:13 PM PST by itsahoot (There are some things more painful than the truth, but I can't think of them.)
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To: itsahoot
"Curiously enough, William Jefferson Clinton never saw China as much of a 'threat.'"

"Neither did Nixon or Carter, if you care to remember."

What I DO remember is your guy -- the traitor, Bubba Clinton -- photo-oping and cavorting around with the Chi-Coms, and whoring off American technology for a few baubles and campaign contributions. Then all the usual comical denials.

Btw, go ahead and Google "china clinton campaign contributions", you "only" get 303,000 results.

P.S. -- You're the "hoot."

19 posted on 03/05/2005 2:45:23 PM PST by Liberator
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To: srm913

China is its own worst enemy. As China continues its industrial revolution and Chinese citizens experience more and more conveniences of the modern world, they will want a louder voice in the direction of the country. Modernization also means more exposure to the outside world and a desire for western culture and freedom. A civil war may occur in this process. The other pitfalls for China are the inevitable market correction to the value of the Yuan which the Chinese government has been propping up for some time and the rise of worker salaries and compensation. As China faces these demands by its citizens, its ability to remain a cheap source of labor and goods will be taken over by other countries causing a market collapse and a major recession.


20 posted on 03/05/2005 2:58:57 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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