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To: Dan from Michigan
"Where guns are available, more women are likely to be killed," Searle said.

Yeah - and with guns women everyone will have no hope of defend themselves

South Africa, famous for high crime rates, sees a woman shot dead by a current or former partner every 18 hours, according to statistics from the state-funded Medical Research Council.

And gun control there has worked so well...

U.S. studies have shown that having a gun in the house increases the risk that someone in the house will be murdered by 41 percent, but boosts the risk for women by 272 percent.

Lies and untruths - most of these "studies' count suicide as a death and do not count non-fatal use of gun (to defend the homeowner) AT ALL.

Some countries such as Canada and Australia have managed to bring down the murder rate of women by toughening laws on gun licensing. But the problem is growing in the developing world, where such safeguards are harder to implement.

The stats don't back this up - crime has increased in both counties since gun control was implemented.

"A gun in the hands of a free man frightens and angers the autocrat (OR THE UN), not because he fears the power of the gun, but, rather, the spirit of the man who holds it."
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7 posted on 03/07/2005 10:36:11 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 2banana
Lies and untruths - most of these "studies' count suicide as a death and do not count non-fatal use of gun (to defend the homeowner) AT ALL.

You're ABSOLUTELY correct on that, Banana.

If someone who owned a gun was murdered in their house by a baseball bat, they counted it.

15 posted on 03/07/2005 10:38:51 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: 2banana
"South Africa, famous for high crime rates, sees a woman shot dead by a current or former partner every 18 hours,..."

And yet in Switzerland where there are at least as many small arms per capita as in South Africa, the domestic violence rate is far lower.

What if guns are not the common factor?
What else could it be?

24 posted on 03/07/2005 10:43:35 AM PST by Redbob
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To: 2banana

"U.S. studies have shown that having a gun in the house increases the risk that someone in the house will be murdered by 41 percent, but boosts the risk for women by 272 percent."


Kellerman, a liberal proffesor, who wrote this study now refutes it.


36 posted on 03/07/2005 10:56:27 AM PST by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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