Replies

BS, -- here's what you said about that thread back at #117:

jackbob wrote:

I finished reading the the "Declaration of Constitutional Principles" [by Jon Roland] yesterday, and found it to be extraordinarily concise, profoundly accurate, and very well written.

But that is not what I wrote in my reply #117. What I wrote is:

I finished reading the the "Declaration of Constitutional Principles" yesterday, and found it to be extraordinarily concise, profoundly accurate, and very well written.

The "[by Jon Roland]" was not in my text. As I have said, "the name "Roland" has never appeared in any prior reply written by me." Your inserting his name into my text, then using it to quote me the way you did went way beyond any clarity or reference purpose. Such misquoting is deceptive at best. I say fraudulent.

You then state that you "posted a thread [entitled "Declaration of Constitutional Principles."] about our Constitutions principles." You further added: "Now you seem bent on turning it [this issue] into a flame fest with personal insults."

After making this accusation, you give my apparent answer to it:

Hmmm, I've not been to that thread. Sounds like a little imagination of false persecution here.

Of course my reply here was not to your above sentence as you re-wrote it here. My reply was to:

I posted a thread about our Constitutions principles. Now you seem bent on turning it into a flame fest with personal insults.

The subject of the imagined false persecution I accused you of was the "thread" on which it was mysteriously happening, and not "[this issue]" which you conveniently added to your own words in this reply after I posted my reply that you quoted. Again as usual, taking my words out of proper context.

At any rate, your attempt to use my reply #117 as some kind of proof that I "seem bent on" turning that thread and/or the Declaration of Constitutional Principles "into a flame fest with personal insults, fails as it does in your attempt to say that I am being dishonest regarding my not knowing what Jon Roland's opinions are on anything.

First off, when I posted #117 on Sunday, March 13, 2005 it was directed to your #115 that you posted just a few minutes prior. Jon Roland's name was not mentioned in either of our replies. It was in your #115 that you provided a link to the new FR thread on the Declaration of Constitutional Principles which you had also just posted a few minutes before that.. I of course didn't need to go to that thread, as I said I had just finished reading them "yesterday" which would have been Saturday March 12, 2005. I of course was well able to find the Declaration at its own web page outside of FR, as you provided a link to it early Friday evening, March 11, 2005. I read the Declaration that Friday evening, finishing it that Saturday prior to your posting a new thread at FR on it. The fact that I had said that I had just finished reading it the day before, dismantles your use of my #117 as proof that I had been to the FR thread you dedicated to it, as you had just started that thread a few minutes prior to my saying that I had already read it.

Now as far as Jon Roland goes, the off FR web page that the Declaration is on, which you provided a link to in you reply #91 on Friday, March 11, 2005 does not mention his name. As a matter of fact, no author is named. No supporting organization is provided. Nor are there any links on the page to any home page it might be connected to, or links to any other page of any kind. In other words its a dead end page, that links to nothing more. Thus I could not have picked up Roland's name there.

As for the FR thread that you provided a link to in your reply #115 which I was responding to in my reply #117, I just went to today and looked at it. I see that you posted only a small portion of the Declaration. The authorship, you have as "unknown." At any rate, your citing my reply #117 as proof that I was not being honest, when I said that I knew nothing of Jon Roland's opinions on any thing, does not hold up to scrutiny. My #117 does not prove me a liar in that regard either.

This brings us full circle back to your statement:

BS, -- here's what you said about that thread back at #117.

That was in reply to my comment that:

Hmmm, I've not been to that thread. Sounds like a little imagination of false persecution here.

Which was in reply to your comment:

I posted a thread [ entitled "Declaration of Constitutional Principles."] about our Constitutions principles. Now you seem bent on turning it into a flame fest with personal insults.

With the last sentence revised by you, after the fact, with out giving fair and proper notice, to read:

Now you seem bent on turning it [this issue] into a flame fest with personal insults.

So when did I go to that thread flaming? Not on Sunday 13th when I first became aware of its existence, nor the next day Monday the 14th, not even on Tuesday the 15th, and still not on Wednesday the 16th. It of cource would be to late as of 6:05a.m. my time, on Thursday the 17th as that is the day you accused me of having done so in your reply #138.

So what have I had to say about the "Declaration of Constitutional Principles" that you also accuse me of being bent on "turning it... into a flame fest with personal insults"?

In my #117 which you site as proof, I wrote:

I finished reading the the "Declaration of Constitutional Principles" yesterday, and found it to be extraordinarily concise, profoundly accurate, and very well written. Needless to say, I had a few disagreements with it. But out of fairness to it, I don't recall ever reading anything longer than 4 or 5 paragraphs that I didn't find disagreement. At any rate, its clear unambiguous presentation of constitutional principles and law, in such a short presentation will have a most positive impact. I want to see this document get wide dissemination and reading. Its well worth the read.

Earlier on this thread, I pretty well established your delusion of grandeur. Now we can add to it an imagination of false persecution. I wonder, if we add them up together, what they might equal.